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Post by Allen Iverson on Jul 21, 2013 5:50:28 GMT
[red]ADMIN NOTE TO SELF: Tristan Thompson joined the Bobcats but was then not re-signed, ended up being signed by the Spurs[/red]
Philadelphia trades:
72 Reggie Jackson $1,208,400 $1,260,360 $2,204,370 $3,222,788 76 Tristan Thompson $3,894,240 $4,062,000 $5,138,430 $6,777,589 2014 1st (Kings) 2014 1st (Trailblazers)
Total: $5,102,640
Charlotte trades:
81 Kemba Walker $2,462,400 $2,568,360 $3,272,091 $4,433,683 76 Thomas Robinson $2,812,200 $2,938,700 $3,065,300 $3,883,735 $5,149,833
Total: $5,454,600
I accept. I'll be getting Kemba Walker, the 2nd or still maybe the 1st option for the Charlotte Bobcats IRL. He's an exciting young player and a combination of Lawson-Walker will just be the same. Waiters will come off the bench this season. I also get Thomas Robinson, a young player that I think will be a great player and will have a better career with the Portland Trailblazers.
I hate losing Reggie Jackson as he has been the projected 6th man for OKC right now and I have been receiving a lot of offers for him, and Tristan Thompson who played great last season. But as you can see, they drafted another PF with Anthony Bennett and signed Andrew Bynum (will he play?). They still have Tyler Zeller and Anderson Varejao out there so I think this will not be a better season for him than his last one.
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Post by James Kay on Jul 21, 2013 6:51:25 GMT
Billy King, you have been messaging me incessantly with the worst trades, and in the limited time I've been here you've been involved with a loud opinion in every transaction. Please stop.
I'm going to justify my reasoning for this trade for the trade committee, not for you.
I don't care for Kemba, Ive made that clear. I think that Reggie Jackson will really have a great year in OKC and come to play a role similar to Hardens.
Tristan Thompson is a better option on my team than Thomas Robinson, I think he will take a larger role in his team this year, especially compared to Thomas Robinson on the Blazers.
And with these two picks, I'll have 7 of the 2014 1 st round picks.
I accept.
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jul 21, 2013 8:30:44 GMT
"New GMs must wait a week after being inducted into the league before submitting any trades." You're breaking this rule again, man. It clearly states *submitting any trades*, which you are doing by posting this deal.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 21, 2013 11:24:43 GMT
Billy I agree with Mr Kay here, I think you need to tone it down a bit, you're being antagonistic, he's trying to be civil.
I do actually like Charlotte's reasoning here. I'm tempted to accept. Again the trade has been submitted before the first week is over, but there's only 1 day until that's up. I'll have to get tougher on that rule in the future.
Thompson = Robinson at the moment, although on potential I would say that Robinson's ceiling is higher. So that leaves Kemba for the picks and Jackson, which I'm not against.
Charlotte is admirably planning ahead with this deal, this will give them a whacking total of 7 first rounders in 2014, a potential springboard into contention, but wouldn't it be wise to still keep the young face of their franchise (Kemba)?
I'd like to see what the rest of the committee says before giving a verdict.
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Post by James Kay on Jul 21, 2013 16:31:48 GMT
About the week thing, I really thought it was a week this time, my bad.
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Post by Dominique Wilkins on Jul 21, 2013 16:58:59 GMT
I'm going to roll in behind Ian. I agree w everything Ian said save the picks. These 2 aren't going to be the greatest, even with 7, Charlotte, Indiana and Toronto picks are probably the best of them all and could net them a couple of high lotto picks.
I'm curious to see the new blueprint for Charlotte and how it turns out. I just hope that Mr. Kay's plan works out to his satisfaction. This may come back to bite me in the ass, but we learn and we grow.
I accept this trade.
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Post by Alex English on Jul 21, 2013 18:19:23 GMT
I may actually prefer the other trade to be honest. I don't think either of those picks will be that high. Portland should be around the 25th pick and I'm thinking the Kings will be a playoff bubble team. So we're talking about a mid 1st and a late 1st. Tristan Thompson is an improvement over Robinson though, and it does fit the direction since Lucas was going all in on the 2014 draft during his entire time as GM.
I'll accept it though, I'm not a big fan of Kemba and with what will be seven 1st round picks the Bobcats roster probably doesn't matter very much right now with all the changes that will be coming.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 18:25:20 GMT
I'm thinking the Kings will be a playoff bubble team. Seriously now?
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Post by Alex English on Jul 21, 2013 18:39:48 GMT
I'm thinking the Kings will be a playoff bubble team. Seriously now? Yea, you only have 4 players. Three of those players are Lillard, Westbrook and Granger but when you have to sign 8 players with your 25 mil in cap space I'm not sure how much better you'll get. I assume you'll spend 8-10 mil on a good post player so that leaves you with 15-17 mil to fill out your roster. That's 2 or 3 decent players and some minimum contracts. I guess it depends on how much depth matters in the sims.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 20:24:39 GMT
Yea, you only have 4 players. Three of those players are Lillard, Westbrook and Granger but when you have to sign 8 players with your 25 mil in cap space I'm not sure how much better you'll get. I assume you'll spend 8-10 mil on a good post player so that leaves you with 15-17 mil to fill out your roster. That's 2 or 3 decent players and some minimum contracts. I guess it depends on how much depth matters in the sims. I think you forgot about KCP, who should be ready to contribute off the bench right away. Most of the time the last two or three guys don't play much in a sim, so the minimums won't matter as much. Besides, they will probably be older guys that are rated 70+. In my opinion, and I maybe bias, but I am the 5th best team in the west right now behind LAC, POR, OKC, and DEN in no order.
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Post by Jackie Moon on Jul 21, 2013 23:03:23 GMT
Yea, you only have 4 players. Three of those players are Lillard, Westbrook and Granger but when you have to sign 8 players with your 25 mil in cap space I'm not sure how much better you'll get. I assume you'll spend 8-10 mil on a good post player so that leaves you with 15-17 mil to fill out your roster. That's 2 or 3 decent players and some minimum contracts. I guess it depends on how much depth matters in the sims. I think you forgot about KCP, who should be ready to contribute off the bench right away. Most of the time the last two or three guys don't play much in a sim, so the minimums won't matter as much. Besides, they will probably be older guys that are rated 70+. In my opinion, and I maybe bias, but I am the 5th best team in the west right now behind LAC, POR, OKC, and DEN in no order. I think what he is saying is that allowing so much of your roster to depend on free agency is quite a gamble and there is a chance it could backfire.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 0:29:45 GMT
I think you forgot about KCP, who should be ready to contribute off the bench right away. Most of the time the last two or three guys don't play much in a sim, so the minimums won't matter as much. Besides, they will probably be older guys that are rated 70+. In my opinion, and I maybe bias, but I am the 5th best team in the west right now behind LAC, POR, OKC, and DEN in no order. I think what he is saying is that allowing so much of your roster to depend on free agency is quite a gamble and there is a chance it could backfire. Then why didn't he say that?
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 22, 2013 2:28:48 GMT
On the fence myself. I wonder if he could get better picks than this for Kemba...but everyone in this league is balls up over 2014 picks, so even later picks have late-lotto value compared to other years.
Just my opinion on the pick part of the deal. That does help, as I think a lot of people are not really that big on Kemba either.
So, trading a player that in general the league isn't huge on, plus a project big man, for a big man who is still young, exciting young player, and two OK but not great or bad picks...
Overall I might have trouble saying "reject" but I am also having trouble saying "accept" because I really just wonder if he could get better picks than this.
Let me think about it, I'll vote by tomorrow.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 22, 2013 18:45:34 GMT
quality over quantity... and kemba is definitely the best quality. I'll accept tho
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Post by James Kay on Jul 25, 2013 20:06:51 GMT
3 accepts, trade passed?
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 25, 2013 20:37:06 GMT
Yep, trade passed.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 28, 2013 9:16:16 GMT
According to the Draft Rights section, Philly does not own the rights to Portland's 2014 1st Rounder - when did that happen Philly? I've been looking through the list of accepted trades and can't find it.
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Post by Dominique Wilkins on Jul 28, 2013 10:51:17 GMT
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Post by Allen Iverson on Jul 28, 2013 20:32:28 GMT
There it is. Thanks Dominique.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 31, 2013 20:53:58 GMT
Thanks 'Nique. Now I'm having trouble with the SAC 2014 1st. Draft Rights says that Charlotte owns it? I've just spent an hour looking for that thread and come up empty
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Post by Alex English on Jul 31, 2013 21:23:34 GMT
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Post by James Kay on Aug 1, 2013 0:18:12 GMT
Wait so did I just trade for a pick that I thought I had but really didnt have?
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Post by Blake Bowman on Aug 1, 2013 0:34:07 GMT
Wait so did I just trade for a pick that I thought I had but really didnt have? Wait, what? lol
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Post by James Kay on Aug 1, 2013 0:38:56 GMT
Wait so did I just trade for a pick that I thought I had but really didnt have? Wait, what? lol I just acquired the Sacramento and Portland 2014 1st Round Picks. According to the Draft Rights page, Sacramento was already mine, BUT it actually wasn't because it was Philly's! So, I ACTUALLY only had 4 first rounders next draft, and now I will have 6. BUT, if I was mistakenly given SAC's 2014 draft pick, is there a chance that I am actually owed someone else's draft pick and that SAC was mistakenly given to me?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2013 7:57:46 GMT
I just acquired the Sacramento and Portland 2014 1st Round Picks. According to the Draft Rights page, Sacramento was already mine, BUT it actually wasn't because it was Philly's! So, I ACTUALLY only had 4 first rounders next draft, and now I will have 6. BUT, if I was mistakenly given SAC's 2014 draft pick, is there a chance that I am actually owed someone else's draft pick and that SAC was mistakenly given to me? You never had that pick, and Alex's chronology as to how Philly got the pick is spot on. By the way, if you feel like trading that pick let me know!
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 1, 2013 8:14:56 GMT
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Post by James Kay on Aug 1, 2013 19:21:55 GMT
I just acquired the Sacramento and Portland 2014 1st Round Picks. According to the Draft Rights page, Sacramento was already mine, BUT it actually wasn't because it was Philly's! So, I ACTUALLY only had 4 first rounders next draft, and now I will have 6. BUT, if I was mistakenly given SAC's 2014 draft pick, is there a chance that I am actually owed someone else's draft pick and that SAC was mistakenly given to me? You never had that pick, and Alex's chronology as to how Philly got the pick is spot on. By the way, if you feel like trading that pick let me know! I realize I never had the pick, I'm just wondering if I was mistakenly given SAC's pick instead of another one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2013 19:43:15 GMT
You never had that pick, and Alex's chronology as to how Philly got the pick is spot on. By the way, if you feel like trading that pick let me know! I realize I never had the pick, I'm just wondering if I was mistakenly given SAC's pick instead of another one. That would be between you and Philly, but you accepted the deal so it is probably too late to change it.
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 1, 2013 20:39:44 GMT
You never had that pick, and Alex's chronology as to how Philly got the pick is spot on. By the way, if you feel like trading that pick let me know! I realize I never had the pick, I'm just wondering if I was mistakenly given SAC's pick instead of another one. Time to go pouring through every single Bobcats Accepted Trade ever! ;D
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Post by James Kay on Aug 1, 2013 21:47:00 GMT
I did that and I think that I am not missing any picks, so I think all is good but I can't check right now for sure because the Draft Rights page is inaccessible.
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