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Post by Aubrey Graham on May 14, 2012 3:07:09 GMT
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Post by thegame on May 14, 2012 7:51:36 GMT
I think Miami has a walk in the park to the finals. I hoping for a Miami vs Boston Eastern finals, with Boston winning, but i think Boston is just to old to get it done.
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Post by Magic Johnson on May 14, 2012 14:55:08 GMT
I think Miami has a walk in the park to the finals. I hoping for a Miami vs Boston Eastern finals, with Boston winning, but i think Boston is just to old to get it done. FALSE. if Wade didn't sabotage Rondo's arm last year BOS would of won that series. MUCH STRONGER this year then ever. have A. Bradley, B. Bass, M. Pietrus on the bench.
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Post by Aubrey Graham on May 14, 2012 18:22:00 GMT
Bosh out indefinitely, beating the Pacers should be no problem but they might run into trouble against Boston
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 18:23:04 GMT
Miami Series going at least 6....Go Pacers...
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Post by Aubrey Graham on May 14, 2012 18:41:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 18:47:14 GMT
Miami will be better without Bosh, I don't think he brings much to the table.
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Post by Aubrey Graham on May 14, 2012 18:51:32 GMT
Miami will be better without Bosh, I don't think he brings much to the table. Im not so sure if Lebron and Wade can carry the Heat through a 7 game series against Indiana. They are a really good team that played Miami close through most of the game yesterday even though their 2 best scorers didn't show up. Miami really doesn't have much of what you'd call reliable offense outside of their big 3, which is now a big 2. Indy also now has a day to gameplan for facing just Lebron and Wade instead of all 3. I still give the Heat the edge in the series without Bosh, but I think the Pacers now have a much better shot at the upset. However so long as Lebron and Wade are healthy, I have the Heat as favorites.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 19:41:32 GMT
Miami will be better without Bosh, I don't think he brings much to the table. Im not so sure if Lebron and Wade can carry the Heat through a 7 game series against Indiana. They are a really good team that played Miami close through most of the game yesterday even though their 2 best scorers didn't show up. Miami really doesn't have much of what you'd call reliable offense outside of their big 3, which is now a big 2. Indy also now has a day to gameplan for facing just Lebron and Wade instead of all 3. I still give the Heat the edge in the series without Bosh, but I think the Pacers now have a much better shot at the upset. However so long as Lebron and Wade are healthy, I have the Heat as favorites. Indiana will not beat Miami as long as they have Lebron James. I honestly feel like the Heat are more athletic with another guard or Hasslem/Turiaf in at PF. They will miss Bosh's outside jump shooting, but I feel like Wade and James try to get Bosh involved just because he is Chris Bosh. Now, Lebron has to depend on himself more. In my opinion, he plays better when he has too (aka how he played against Detroit in 07). To sum it up, Miami is better defensively and maybe offensively without Bosh. IF the Heat never win the title their downfall will be that their "3rd guy" was not Dirk or Amare.
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Post by thegame on May 14, 2012 19:44:18 GMT
Christina Bosh is a bitch, Miami will just fine agaisnt Indy, the real question would be agaisnt Boston.
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Post by Otis Smith on May 14, 2012 19:57:23 GMT
Toronto you either do not watch Heat games or you are just being delusional. The loss of Chris Bosh will hurt and hurt badly.
First, on offense Chris Bosh is apart of almost every single offensive set the Heat run, by running him through picks and pop/rolls or running the offense though him on the high post. He also provides necessary spacing (on of the most important things for a half-court offense) with his shooting and draws the best big man out for Lebron and Wade.
Second, at this point Bosh is their best big man defender (hes better than Haslem's dead corpse and Joel Anthony 0 basketball IQ). His ability to trap and hedge on pick and rolls with Lebron/wade is vital to the Heats attacking defensive mind set.
The Heat could get to the finals with Chicago out of the way but the OKC thunder/Lakers/Spurs are too big for the Heat to overcome without their best big man.
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Post by thegame on May 14, 2012 20:01:21 GMT
My opinion still stands, the Heat will beat the Pacers without Christina. People don't understand how good lebron is, now he has Dwade, Haslem and Anthony are just as good as the big combo he had wit the Cavs. I think they will be just find, even better. As long as Wade and Bron are in attack mode they don't need christina.
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Post by Otis Smith on May 14, 2012 20:09:24 GMT
My opinion still stands, the Heat will beat the Pacers without Christina. People don't understand how good lebron is, now he has Dwade, Haslem and Anthony are just as good as the big combo he had wit the Cavs. I think they will be just find, even better. As long as Wade and Bron are in attack mode they don't need christina. Yeah they will beat then but they will be damn tired doing it. Remember last years NBA finals when Lebron was visibly tired and that was after playing only 15 games in the first 3 rounds. That happen because he had to play 40+ minutes every game and guard the opposing teams best players. Imagine only having two guys who can score (the rest of the Heat are trash at this point) and now imagine those two guys also have to guard the two best scorers (wade on george and Lebron on either David west or Granger). After that pacer series, they get the gauntlet of facing the Celtics brutal team defence. If they survive that somehow that they get the winner of the West finals and it could be 2011 finals all over again. The Heat know themselves they need bosh back ASAP
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 20:16:26 GMT
Toronto you either do not watch Heat games or you are just being delusional. The loss of Chris Bosh will hurt and hurt badly. First, on offense Chris Bosh is apart of almost every single offensive set the Heat run, by running him through picks and pop/rolls or running the offense though him on the high post. He also provides necessary spacing (on of the most important things for a half-court offense) with his shooting and draws the best big man out for Lebron and Wade. Second, at this point Bosh is their best big man defender (hes better than Haslem's dead corpse and Joel Anthony 0 basketball IQ). His ability to trap and hedge on pick and rolls with Lebron/wade is vital to the Heats attacking defensive mind set. The Heat could get to the finals with Chicago out of the way but the OKC thunder/Lakers/Spurs are too big for the Heat to overcome without their best big man. First of all I often watch Miami and am not delusional, but thanks! Secondly, I agree with your first point, but am wondering if maybe the Heat would not be better if they did not run a pick and role with Bosh and one of the guards? Why not put Lebron at the 4 and let him screen for Wade? Or just let Wade and Lebron go one on one against their man. I honestly think they both give Bosh too much credit, he's really not that talented. However, I do agree they will miss his mid range shooting, as I said before. To your second point, I disagree. Hasslem has always been a good defender, though Joel is more of a offside shot blocker (which Bosh gives you 0 shot blocking) and struggles with the kind of guys Bosh guards. However, you also have to factor in Lebron playing more 4. I think one of the reasons why Miami never let Lebron guard Dirk in the finals last year is because it would hurt Bosh's feelings; now that is out the door. Also, with the addition of Ronny Turiaf, this gives him a chance to play more minutes. Sure, he is limited on offense but he is a big physical man and can do things Bosh/Hasslem/Anthony cannot. I really like their defense much better with Turiaf in place of Bosh; it gives them more athleticism on the floor. You might factor in I am bias, I love Ronny Turiaf. The Heat will go to the finals, but I am picking Oklahoma City to beat them with Bosh. Now, if Lebron relies on himself more than others because of no Bosh, I think they have a better chance to win. Plus, you don't have to worry about his ego; which should be nonexistent. I am not saying they will win it without Bosh, but I think there is a good chance they will better than they were without him.
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Post by Magic Johnson on May 14, 2012 20:20:13 GMT
MIA WILL LOSE TO BOS, they'll beat IND but lose to BOS.
MIA got lucky break when Wade injured Rondo's arm on purpose he won't be lucky this time.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 20:22:02 GMT
MIA WILL LOSE TO BOS, they'll beat IND but lose to BOS. MIA got lucky break when Wade injured Rondo's arm on purpose he won't be lucky this time. And what was LAL's excuse last year when the DALLAS MAVERICKS SWEPT THEM ON THE WAY TO THE NBA FINALS!!!!
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Post by Magic Johnson on May 14, 2012 20:24:40 GMT
MIA WILL LOSE TO BOS, they'll beat IND but lose to BOS. MIA got lucky break when Wade injured Rondo's arm on purpose he won't be lucky this time. And what was LAL's excuse last year when the DALLAS MAVERICKS SWEPT THEM ON THE WAY TO THE NBA FINALS!!!! funny how you defend LBJ yet he found a way to choke in the FINALS, i thought he was suppose to be next JORDAN. LAL will win this year, last year DAL was a COMPLETE AND UTTER FLUKE. Just like the New Orleans Saints were when they injured Warner and Favre and haven't done JACK since the super bowl in 2009. PS: LBJ got swept too in the FINALS against Spurs just like KB did against Mavs.
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Post by Otis Smith on May 14, 2012 20:26:59 GMT
Toronto you either do not watch Heat games or you are just being delusional. The loss of Chris Bosh will hurt and hurt badly. First, on offense Chris Bosh is apart of almost every single offensive set the Heat run, by running him through picks and pop/rolls or running the offense though him on the high post. He also provides necessary spacing (on of the most important things for a half-court offense) with his shooting and draws the best big man out for Lebron and Wade. Second, at this point Bosh is their best big man defender (hes better than Haslem's dead corpse and Joel Anthony 0 basketball IQ). His ability to trap and hedge on pick and rolls with Lebron/wade is vital to the Heats attacking defensive mind set. The Heat could get to the finals with Chicago out of the way but the OKC thunder/Lakers/Spurs are too big for the Heat to overcome without their best big man. First of all I often watch Miami and am not delusional, but thanks! Secondly, I agree with your first point, but am wondering if maybe the Heat would not be better if they did not run a pick and role with Bosh and one of the guards? Why not put Lebron at the 4 and let him screen for Wade? Or just let Wade and Lebron go one on one against their man. I honestly think they both give Bosh too much credit, he's really not that talented. However, I do agree they will miss his mid range shooting, as I said before. To your second point, I disagree. Hasslem has always been a good defender, though Joel is more of a offside shot blocker (which Bosh gives you 0 shot blocking) and struggles with the kind of guys Bosh guards. However, you also have to factor in Lebron playing more 4. I think one of the reasons why Miami never let Lebron guard Dirk in the finals last year is because it would hurt Bosh's feelings; now that is out the door. Also, with the addition of Ronny Turiaf, this gives him a chance to play more minutes. Sure, he is limited on offense but he is a big physical man and can do things Bosh/Hasslem/Anthony cannot. I really like their defense much better with Turiaf in place of Bosh; it gives them more athleticism on the floor. You might factor in I am bias, I love Ronny Turiaf. The Heat will go to the finals, but I am picking Oklahoma City to beat them with Bosh. Now, if Lebron relies on himself more than others because of no Bosh, I think they have a better chance to win. Plus, you don't have to worry about his ego; which should be nonexistent. I am not saying they will win it without Bosh, but I think there is a good chance they will better than they were without him. The difference is that Bosh is their best pick and roll defender, Haslem is their best man defender, and Joel Anthony is their best help/weak side defender. Why I said Bosh is their best big man defender because the whole defence is based around rotations and switching on defence. Bosh is their most nimble/quick big and moves better latterly then both Anthony and Haslem. Bosh is invaluable to this team on both offense and defense. Being a life long raptors fan I know the guy can score with the best of them which is needed to balance the Heat attack.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 20:34:27 GMT
First of all I often watch Miami and am not delusional, but thanks! Secondly, I agree with your first point, but am wondering if maybe the Heat would not be better if they did not run a pick and role with Bosh and one of the guards? Why not put Lebron at the 4 and let him screen for Wade? Or just let Wade and Lebron go one on one against their man. I honestly think they both give Bosh too much credit, he's really not that talented. However, I do agree they will miss his mid range shooting, as I said before. To your second point, I disagree. Hasslem has always been a good defender, though Joel is more of a offside shot blocker (which Bosh gives you 0 shot blocking) and struggles with the kind of guys Bosh guards. However, you also have to factor in Lebron playing more 4. I think one of the reasons why Miami never let Lebron guard Dirk in the finals last year is because it would hurt Bosh's feelings; now that is out the door. Also, with the addition of Ronny Turiaf, this gives him a chance to play more minutes. Sure, he is limited on offense but he is a big physical man and can do things Bosh/Hasslem/Anthony cannot. I really like their defense much better with Turiaf in place of Bosh; it gives them more athleticism on the floor. You might factor in I am bias, I love Ronny Turiaf. The Heat will go to the finals, but I am picking Oklahoma City to beat them with Bosh. Now, if Lebron relies on himself more than others because of no Bosh, I think they have a better chance to win. Plus, you don't have to worry about his ego; which should be nonexistent. I am not saying they will win it without Bosh, but I think there is a good chance they will better than they were without him. The difference is that Bosh is their best pick and roll defender, Haslem is their best man defender, and Joel Anthony is their best help/weak side defender. Why I said Bosh is their best big man defender because the whole defence is based around rotations and switching on defence. Bosh is their most nimble/quick big and moves better latterly then both Anthony and Haslem. Bosh is invaluable to this team on both offense and defense. Being a life long raptors fan I know the guy can score with the best of them which is needed to balance the Heat attack. I don't think the Heat need balance, they have the MOST TALENTED player in the history of the NBA and a top 5 player of the generation; get them the ball and get out of the way.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 20:35:13 GMT
And what was LAL's excuse last year when the DALLAS MAVERICKS SWEPT THEM ON THE WAY TO THE NBA FINALS!!!! funny how you defend LBJ yet he found a way to choke in the FINALS, i thought he was suppose to be next JORDAN. LAL will win this year, last year DAL was a COMPLETE AND UTTER FLUKE. Just like the New Orleans Saints were when they injured Warner and Favre and haven't done JACK since the super bowl in 2009. PS: LBJ got swept too in the FINALS against Spurs just like KB did against Mavs. Oh yeah, and going to 7 with Denver was a fluke too huh? OKC will beat LA in 6, maybe 5.
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Post by Magic Johnson on May 14, 2012 20:38:40 GMT
funny how you defend LBJ yet he found a way to choke in the FINALS, i thought he was suppose to be next JORDAN. LAL will win this year, last year DAL was a COMPLETE AND UTTER FLUKE. Just like the New Orleans Saints were when they injured Warner and Favre and haven't done JACK since the super bowl in 2009. PS: LBJ got swept too in the FINALS against Spurs just like KB did against Mavs. Oh yeah, and going to 7 with Denver was a fluke too huh? OKC will beat LA in 6, maybe 5. DEN wasn't a fluke that was bad match up due to Lawson, DEN really took it to LAL, they have bright future. OKC won't be winning tonight I'll tell you that much. DAL entire run to the finals last year was a utter joke, OKC should of beaten them. that's a bigger joke then Romo being only 93rd or 95th in the top 100 NFL players ranking.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 20:40:19 GMT
Oh yeah, and going to 7 with Denver was a fluke too huh? OKC will beat LA in 6, maybe 5. DEN wasn't a fluke that was bad match up due to Lawson, DEN really took it to LAL, they have bright future. OKC won't be winning tonight I'll tell you that much. DAL entire run to the finals last year was a utter joke, OKC should of beaten them. that's a bigger joke then Romo being only 93rd or 95th in the top 100 NFL players ranking. I bet you your team that OKC wins tonight on their home court....and yeah no way Romo is ahead of Tim Tebow
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Post by Samuel Jenkins on May 15, 2012 23:05:01 GMT
Well, Pietrus is a good three point shooter, i think these two teams are pretty even between celtics and heat. Though heat have the edge in the wingman positions.
Heat's bench may be a "little" stronger as well. If celtics meet heat in ECF, its going to have to be an inside offensive game for the celtics to win that series. Bosh is out, so the celtics bigs should have a field day in scoring.
Particularly Garnett and Bass, they have to step up big time in this series. Rondo is going to have to be an assist man in this series, and play some good perimiter defense against Mario Chalmers.
But of course, its not automatic that the celtics will meet the heat in the ECF. Sizers and pacers are really good this year.
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Post by Aubrey Graham on May 18, 2012 4:30:16 GMT
So Miami is better without Bosh you say?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2012 4:47:25 GMT
Wade had no points at half time, with or without Bosh they are going to loss when that happens.
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Post by Aubrey Graham on May 18, 2012 18:50:28 GMT
Bosh is the second most important player on that team.
It's because he has a COMPLEMENTARY and not REDUNDANT skillset.
Average rebounding differential with Bosh gone: -13
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Post by Samuel Jenkins on May 18, 2012 19:49:01 GMT
So is everybody now saying that Bosh is the best player of the big three? Bosh is very good but the best? I say he's the second best after Lebron.
Its too bad Wade never developed his three point shoot as much as he should have, Wade maybe able to shoot threes sometimes, but he should never, ever shoot a three pointer. Wade is a driver and a midrange shooter in offensive terms.
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Post by Otis Smith on May 18, 2012 20:18:50 GMT
So is everybody now saying that Bosh is the best player of the big three? Bosh is very good but the best? I say he's the second best after Lebron. Its too bad Wade never developed his three point shoot as much as he should have, Wade maybe able to shoot threes sometimes, but he should never, ever shoot a three pointer. Wade is a driver and a midrange shooter in offensive terms. Please direct to a statement where somebody said Bosh was the best of the big 3?
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Post by Dan Gilbert on May 19, 2012 19:14:53 GMT
So anyone see the Heat blowing things up if they don't win the chip this season?
A lot of talk yesterday about moving Wade if they lose
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2012 19:17:59 GMT
I haven't given up yet; Lebron just needs to take over.
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