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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 7, 2022 15:21:39 GMT
Current: 96
This is more about philosophy than straight forward assessment of how good a player is with a given set of data.
The guy will be playing here in D5 in 3 Days. He will play as a 96.
He is not playing like a 96. We should not logically expect him to play like 96 in this elimination round, minimum.
So, in my opinion, we should decrease him in an acceptable level.
Suggestion: 90
P.S. I 100% understand the thought-process that we should be more patient. But, I am more on the side of using some logic with Kawhi's situation to believe that it is more correct to decrease him now.
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Post by Jared Montini on Dec 7, 2022 15:24:22 GMT
Yeah if we are gonna let Kawhi play in sim because he plays once every 2 weeks I’m more inclined to vote for a decrease. He’s clearly not a 96 yet or maybe ever again. 92
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Post by Jerry West on Dec 7, 2022 15:25:17 GMT
HE HAS PLAYED 6 GAMES IN 2 YEARS. 7 games ago Kawhi was the best player in the league. 7 GAMES
96
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 7, 2022 15:26:45 GMT
P.S. There is a good chance that Kawhi will play every other week IRL.
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Post by James Kay on Dec 7, 2022 16:11:38 GMT
HE HAS PLAYED 6 GAMES IN 2 YEARS. 7 games ago Kawhi was the best player in the league. 7 GAMES 96 But he plays every game in D5 and I think that's their point here. Not saying it's right but you're literally making their argument lol
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Post by Jerry West on Dec 7, 2022 16:16:06 GMT
HE HAS PLAYED 6 GAMES IN 2 YEARS. 7 games ago Kawhi was the best player in the league. 7 GAMES 96 But he plays every game in D5 and I think that's their point here. Not saying it's right but you're literally making their argument lol Or hear me out, give him another 2 months instead of putting 50 new builds for Walt to make
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 7, 2022 16:38:40 GMT
I really don't like all these stockwatches so early in the season. This one is especially a bad idea.
No change
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 7, 2022 17:05:03 GMT
too early imho
Yes it's bullshit all the load management going on, but wait on dropping him yet.
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Post by Mark Price on Dec 7, 2022 17:46:00 GMT
Can we stock watch his minutes to 17 a game?
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Dec 8, 2022 2:54:08 GMT
Part-time players don’t deserve full-time, superstar ratings.
91.5
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Dec 8, 2022 15:41:31 GMT
94
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Post by Chris Webber on Dec 15, 2022 17:58:34 GMT
96
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Dec 16, 2022 4:13:36 GMT
90
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Post by Monty Williams on Dec 16, 2022 13:40:57 GMT
Current: 96 This is more about philosophy than straight forward assessment of how good a player is with a given set of data. The guy will be playing here in D5 in 3 Days. He will play as a 96. He is not playing like a 96. We should not logically expect him to play like 96 in this elimination round, minimum. So, in my opinion, we should decrease him in an acceptable level. Suggestion: 90 P.S. I 100% understand the thought-process that we should be more patient. But, I am more on the side of using some logic with Kawhi's situation to believe that it is more correct to decrease him now. He’s literally 10 game into his recovery from ACL, and still looks every bit of the player he was prior, barring the obvious, and expected rust. Come back in 40 games or something, this seems premature. Now that would be logical.
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Post by Tom Izzo on Dec 23, 2022 14:51:30 GMT
92
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Post by Larry Bird on Dec 23, 2022 15:35:06 GMT
Wonder how you could build a program which could adjust load management for the game?
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 23, 2022 18:12:49 GMT
Wonder how you could build a program which could adjust load management for the game? There is a 'fatigue' setting but it would just decrease the minutes played per game as opposed to load manage and set games off. edit: also what if Kawhi plays full minutes during the IRL playoffs? Do we set his fatigue to be different then? The Kawhi situation is kind of an open question right now.
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Post by George Gervin on Dec 31, 2022 22:41:42 GMT
BUMP for more votes above 12/31 closed batch
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Post by Arvydas Sabonis on Jan 1, 2023 16:56:27 GMT
So what are his stats for the time he actually has been playing?
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Post by Jared Montini on Jan 1, 2023 17:00:15 GMT
So what are his stats for the time he actually has been playing? 17-6-4 this season so far. Trending up but not the same
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Post by Arvydas Sabonis on Jan 2, 2023 10:12:43 GMT
Although it's early, his per minute/possession stats and advanced stats are down, which would indicate he is not as effective even with additional rest. This is bit of gray area, 96 is just too high for someone not playing full time. Maybe he can get another SW later in the season if he goes on a rampage in the coming months, but for now I vote 91
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 3, 2023 2:04:04 GMT
Can we stock watch his minutes to 17 a game? We do have a Stamina rating. Not sure we've run tests on it but maybe it could be nerfed lol. No clue how the Sim will handle it tbh. That said, I do think there comes a time where we have to do this. I'm not positive if it's now or not... but it does kind of "feel" like it might be time to drop a bit. Still in the 90's feels good to me, but perhaps not among the very top-end ratings we have in this league. 93.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jan 6, 2023 14:13:00 GMT
No change butt I suggest another thread later this season. He’s at 28 mpg now with bad stats. But only 17 games played.
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Post by George Gervin on Jan 6, 2023 14:34:02 GMT
A bit torn on this one. On one hand, he’s only played 17 games this year and he clearly has a lot of rust to shake off. On the other hand, watching him play…he gets very little lift on his jumpers and has this style of play now that is completely power based. It still makes him an effective player, but not sure he can stay in the same echelon as his elite contemporaries at this point.
93
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Post by George Gervin on Jan 6, 2023 15:53:32 GMT
THREAD CLOSED.
New Rating = 93 (93.14)
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