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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 20, 2022 21:00:33 GMT
I've pretty much finished coding the first version of the automated injury system that can come into effect next season. The reply below this one will be an example of the daily thread that I will re-post each day. For the purposes of demonstration the entries for Joe Harris and Ben Simmons are edited dummy data - they're not actually healing or healed, I just edited them for display purposes for today's list. Josh Hart however did coincidentally meet the 30 day threshold just today, so he would be a real addition to the new system. The system will post an alert and @gm only when one of three situations are true: - When a player has been injured for 30 days (e.g. Josh Hart below).
- When a player heals in real life and has 30 days left before they are healed at D5.
- When a player has finished their 30 days of healing and is ready to return to D5 action (e.g. Ben Simmons below).
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 20, 2022 21:00:44 GMT
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 20, 2022 21:16:06 GMT
This is amazing. I do still feel like a player like John Wall should be out under the new rules. I guess there's some exception for him not being on this list. But I think under the new rules, if you miss 30 days, you should be Out- regardless of the reason.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Apr 20, 2022 21:41:28 GMT
Not sure how I feel about this. I think we’ll still have to evaluate and discuss end-of-season injuries.
According to this, Sabonis would be out. He was injured right before the end of the season, so his injury update probably won’t be updated until next season. The only thing I can find on his injury is that he suffered a bruised knee. This system would take him out of my lineup, potentially for the rest of our season.
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Post by Jerry West on Apr 20, 2022 21:44:53 GMT
Not sure how I feel about this. I think we’ll still have to evaluate and discuss end-of-season injuries. According to this, Sabonis would be out. He was injured right before the end of the season, so his injury update probably won’t be updated until next season. The only thing I can find on his injury is that he suffered a bruised knee. This system would take him out of my lineup, potentially for the rest of our season. That's always been in place tho, he misses the end of a season over X amount of days needed to listed as injured, he also misses that in D5. Just happened with Giddey to me, I'm sure his hip soreness is all good by now but he's going to be out the rest of the year.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Apr 20, 2022 21:46:48 GMT
Not sure how I feel about this. I think we’ll still have to evaluate and discuss end-of-season injuries. According to this, Sabonis would be out. He was injured right before the end of the season, so his injury update probably won’t be updated until next season. The only thing I can find on his injury is that he suffered a bruised knee. This system would take him out of my lineup, potentially for the rest of our season. That's always been in place tho, he misses the end of a season over X amount of days needed to listed as injured, he also misses that in D5. Just happened with Giddey to me, I'm sure his hip soreness is all good by now but he's going to be out the rest of the year. Well my point is that he didn’t miss the required amount of days before the end of the regularseason, but his injury is listed as 31 days because it has extended into the playoffs.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 20, 2022 21:47:53 GMT
Not sure how I feel about this. I think we’ll still have to evaluate and discuss end-of-season injuries. According to this, Sabonis would be out. He was injured right before the end of the season, so his injury update probably won’t be updated until next season. The only thing I can find on his injury is that he suffered a bruised knee. This system would take him out of my lineup, potentially for the rest of our season. There is a "list of exceptions" already built into the code. If we decide a player should be exempt then we can add him to that list. The conditions under which we consider a player to be a valid exception are still going to have to be addressed as time goes on. Possibly Sabonis fits the criteria of a player taking an extremely conservative amount of time to heal because his season is over and (1) that rule needs to be better clarified in the Rules and (2) Sabonis shouldn't be out. edit: also this system does not cover whatever it is we're going to do in the Playoffs, I haven't even thought about that yet.
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Post by Jerry West on Apr 20, 2022 21:49:51 GMT
That's always been in place tho, he misses the end of a season over X amount of days needed to listed as injured, he also misses that in D5. Just happened with Giddey to me, I'm sure his hip soreness is all good by now but he's going to be out the rest of the year. Well my point is that he didn’t miss the required amount of days before the end of the regularseason, but his injury is listed as 31 days because it has extended into the playoffs. Oh I thought it was until the end of regular season, yeah in that case I agree with you that it should be debated and not extended without cause
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 20, 2022 22:16:54 GMT
At the top of /r/NBA right now lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/u82mu4/i_wish_we_had_no_injury_reports_and_guys_came
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Post by Steve Nash on Apr 20, 2022 22:33:26 GMT
This is awesome. Nice work Ian. I'm sure a lot of time goes into something like this, we really appreciate it!
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 21, 2022 17:01:44 GMT
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Post by Steve Nash on Apr 21, 2022 17:05:03 GMT
Just noticed Warren is on the Heat and Wiseman is on my team
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 22, 2022 15:18:09 GMT
Just noticed Warren is on the Heat and Wiseman is on my team Thanks, it's probably because when they got injured I put the wrong team-number on them I'll fix tonight before sims.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 22, 2022 17:56:08 GMT
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Post by Tom Izzo on Apr 22, 2022 18:25:10 GMT
I think it's a solid objective way to look at it.
Would we remove players who WILL be out longer than 42 days? Say there's an ACL injury. Do we remove them immediately or wait for the 42 day mark?
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Post by George Gervin on Apr 22, 2022 18:58:50 GMT
Ian Noble, I’m a bit confused — Marcus Garrett should show as injured for me. He had a season ending wrist surgery in the winter and has been out at least three months, yet he doesn’t hit here. Is it a sourcing thing? Or because it is post season end he’s not considered “injured” anymore?
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 22, 2022 19:07:04 GMT
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Apr 22, 2022 19:41:16 GMT
I think Jonathan Isaac and Dario Saric snuck on my team.
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Post by Jared Montini on Apr 22, 2022 19:47:11 GMT
I don’t have rose
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 23, 2022 17:45:12 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 23, 2022 17:45:37 GMT
Corrected all those players on the wrong teams now.
When I post these every day, what I'm really waiting to see is my program picking up when a player heals in real life, because then the 30 day countdown should start and that's not something I've been able to test any other way.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 24, 2022 17:39:02 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 25, 2022 19:33:29 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 27, 2022 17:01:10 GMT
I've not posted an update yesterday or today because "Trendon Watford" has become injured, who my program picks up as not matching any D5 player, and I've discovered an error in my program when marking a player as unmatched which I haven't had time to fix yet.
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Apr 28, 2022 3:11:42 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on May 5, 2022 16:31:48 GMT
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Post by Arvydas Sabonis on May 5, 2022 18:39:37 GMT
I think you should count the days to the end of regular season and not until today. For example Tre Mann was now added to the list although he missed only 13 days in the end of regular season before OKC's games ended. But now the list shows him to be out for 38 days which includes all the playoff days
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Post by Walt Frazier on May 6, 2022 0:41:35 GMT
I think you should count the days to the end of regular season and not until today. For example Tre Mann was now added to the list although he missed only 13 days in the end of regular season before OKC's games ended. But now the list shows him to be out for 38 days which includes all the playoff days Or, at least for non-playoff NBA teams, perhaps?
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Post by Ian Noble on May 15, 2022 18:17:01 GMT
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Sept 28, 2022 11:56:32 GMT
Are we implementing this for the upcoming season?
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