Greg Schiano
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Post by Greg Schiano on Nov 28, 2012 11:08:54 GMT
Current rating:80 Proposed rating:86
46% from 3. 17 points a game. 8 boards. Playing in an offense that is only going to get better with Vasquez and Davis getting better. Anderson is a poor man's Kevin Love.
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Glenn Robinson
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Nov 28, 2012 14:32:53 GMT
I wouldn't go as high as 86. I'd say somewhere like 82 or 83 would be as high as I'd go with his rating.
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Nov 28, 2012 14:35:23 GMT
I wouldn't go as high as 86. I'd say somewhere like 82 or 83 would be as high as I'd go with his rating. I agree.
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Post by Dominique Wilkins on Nov 28, 2012 14:35:41 GMT
82 sounds like a good round number.
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Nov 28, 2012 14:39:29 GMT
His fg could go up a little bit, his def. reb., his passing could a bit higher (not a passer but he could from 26 to 30, lol). 82 overall should make it.
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Lucas Lutkus
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Post by Lucas Lutkus on Nov 28, 2012 14:48:59 GMT
80 is good
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Jackie Moon
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Post by Jackie Moon on Nov 28, 2012 15:00:50 GMT
80 is fine for him. You can't boost a player off of one season, especially when he was in a system like Orlando that basically gave him the right to shoot as many threes as he pleases because of the lack of quality players outside Dwight.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Nov 28, 2012 15:17:53 GMT
80 is fine for him. You can't boost a player off of one season, especially when he was in a system like Orlando that basically gave him the right to shoot as many threes as he pleases because of the lack of quality players outside Dwight. These are valid points, but he's doing it again thus far this season with a new team. I could maybe get behind a 2-3 point boost, 86 is too high at this point. Not sure if he really "needs" the boost at this point, but like Ruben said, there are areas he probably deserves a boost.
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Jackie Moon
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Post by Jackie Moon on Nov 28, 2012 15:32:46 GMT
But were only what 15 games into the season? You could argue Varejao could use a boost to mid to high 80s off of his play over 15 games and that Ramon Sessions should be rated much higher for shooting as many free throws as he does a game, a stat dominated by star players.
I feel like its too early to judge him. A season and less than a fourth isn't enough. Kyrie has been in the league that long and you could say the same about him needin a boost if we are using such a small amount of time.
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Post by Greg Schiano on Nov 28, 2012 16:05:22 GMT
But were only what 15 games into the season? You could argue Varejao could use a boost to mid to high 80s off of his play over 15 games and that Ramon Sessions should be rated much higher for shooting as many free throws as he does a game, a stat dominated by star players. I feel like its too early to judge him. A season and less than a fourth isn't enough. Kyrie has been in the league that long and you could say the same about him needin a boost if we are using such a small amount of time. I'd say Kyrie needs a boost anyway. For Varajeo; dude DEFINITELY needs a boost. He is playing monsterous, as well as last year at the end too. There's a lot of guys who need boosts. Some players are overrated as shit then.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Nov 28, 2012 16:52:48 GMT
If we're putting Kevin Love in the 90s, then Anderson has to be high 80s.
I vote 88
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Nov 28, 2012 16:53:40 GMT
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Post by Danny Longley on Nov 28, 2012 17:19:29 GMT
Can I get Dirk at 100 then?
Sarcasm off, He's yet to play 20 games this season and as Jackie noted, in the previous season, the Magic system just about lets him take as many 3s as he wants. I'd say for now, keep him at 80 and if he does keep this pace up for the rest of the season, maybe an 83-84. If he slows down to last year's pace, then 82 would be fine.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Nov 28, 2012 18:40:23 GMT
Can I get Dirk at 100 then? Sarcasm off, He's yet to play 20 games this season and as Jackie noted, in the previous season, the Magic system just about lets him take as many 3s as he wants. I'd say for now, keep him at 80 and if he does keep this pace up for the rest of the season, maybe an 83-84. If he slows down to last year's pace, then 82 would be fine. Yes, but clearly Kevin Love isn't the product of a system. I mean, he only took 19.3 shots per game last year. And while that may have been the third most in the league behind only Kobe and Lebron, he clearly is a much more proficient shooter. I mean, just compare his .448% field goals to Lebron's .496%.
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Jackie Moon
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Post by Jackie Moon on Nov 28, 2012 19:41:19 GMT
Can I get Dirk at 100 then? Sarcasm off, He's yet to play 20 games this season and as Jackie noted, in the previous season, the Magic system just about lets him take as many 3s as he wants. I'd say for now, keep him at 80 and if he does keep this pace up for the rest of the season, maybe an 83-84. If he slows down to last year's pace, then 82 would be fine. Yes, but clearly Kevin Love isn't the product of a system. I mean, he only took 19.3 shots per game last year. And while that may have been the third most in the league behind only Kobe and Lebron, he clearly is a much more proficient shooter. I mean, just compare his .448% field goals to Lebron's .496%. Loves numbers have been consistent multiple seasons, unlike Anderson's. I mean hell he averaged 20-15 a couple of years ago. No one had done that in a long, long time. Loves number may be inflated just a bit, but that stellar season shows he has talent and is more than just a system player. How many great big men have been on crappy teams and they weren't able to put a season like that together? Quite a few.
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Post by Alex English on Nov 28, 2012 20:03:57 GMT
Ryan Anderson at 86 is crazy. At an 80 he isn't even in much need of an increase. I could understand an 82 maybe but 86 is clearly a BS starting point. Aim high settle for what you wanted in the first place type stuff..
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Otis Smith
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Post by Otis Smith on Nov 28, 2012 22:30:50 GMT
If we're putting Kevin Love in the 90s, then Anderson has to be high 80s. I vote 88 This has to be joke, please tell me it is. There is reactionary and then there is shit like this. The guy cannot create his own shot and is abysmal on defence. Doesn't protect the rim nor is he great laterally, can't defend on PnRs nor quick forwards. He is a great shooter and good defensive rebounder but thats it. He proved last year that he isn't a 1st option (or really even a good 2nd option) in the playoffs and usually players over 85 should be able to carry a team for a small stretch, which he has shown he cannot do. Looking at his stats and play I believe that 80-82 would be fine.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Nov 28, 2012 22:45:49 GMT
Clearly its a joke, I'm just trying to point out how ridiculous a lot of the threads are here. People writing novels about players who shouldn't be getting increases at all. There's no punishment for being unreasonable, so why not aim for the fences?
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Otis Smith
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Post by Otis Smith on Nov 28, 2012 22:58:23 GMT
Clearly its a joke, I'm just trying to point out how ridiculous a lot of the threads are here. People writing novels about players who shouldn't be getting increases at all. There's no punishment for being unreasonable, so why not aim for the fences? Yeah you definitely got me there man I was mostly bamboozled by that. But the reactionary threads on here are too much, someone said Dragic should be a 84 or Parsons should be in the mid-808s. Its getting silly with these threads. I also want to stress that people shouldn't just use raw box score stats solely as a justification of their arguments.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Nov 29, 2012 0:02:09 GMT
Clearly its a joke, I'm just trying to point out how ridiculous a lot of the threads are here. People writing novels about players who shouldn't be getting increases at all. There's no punishment for being unreasonable, so why not aim for the fences? Yeah you definitely got me there man I was mostly bamboozled by that. But the reactionary threads on here are too much, someone said Dragic should be a 84 or Parsons should be in the mid-808s. Its getting silly with these threads. I also want to stress that people shouldn't just use raw box score stats solely as a justification of their arguments. I've tries using articles from Sports Illustrated as well as stats and no one said a word about the article. This was in the Love thread. Anyway, with Love, most of his stats in here were close to his Real-life #'s, but his 3pt shooting and rebounding were off. Raise those to proper levels and I'm good.
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Post by Alex English on Nov 29, 2012 1:02:52 GMT
But the reactionary threads on here are too much, someone said Dragic should be a 84 or Parsons should be in the mid-808s. Its getting silly with these threads. I don't see how Dragic being an 84 is silly. Look at his play as a starter and compare it around the league. Seems just about right imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2012 1:21:22 GMT
Judging by stats, if Anderson should be an 86 then Ibaka should be at least a 90!
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Otis Smith
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Post by Otis Smith on Nov 29, 2012 3:46:17 GMT
Judging by stats, if Anderson should be an 86 then Ibaka should be at least a 90! After today's game that would at least be more defensible then anderson being rated in mid-80s.
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