Royce O'Neale - BRK

[Bryan Colangelo]

Royce O'Neale is joining the Nets:

Year 1: $2,000,000
Year 2: $2,898,310
Year 3: $3,796,620
Year 4: $4,694,930

[Josh Barber]

Welcome to Brooklyn!

[Shaquille O'Neal]

You said last time he has an 18,500,000 offer thats why i gave up. Why does he have this lowballed contract now?

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Ian Noble

[Bryan Colangelo]

Yeah he did then that GM backed out. I posted multiple times on the chat he’s looking for offers, which should of triggered you to reach out again. You offered him a minimum contract, told you he had a 18 million dollar offer on the table, and then you never responded. I’m assuming that’s your highest offer. A simple “we can only offer x amount, please let me know if anything changes” would of made me circle back. I’m assuming that’s your highest bid for my client.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Not everyone reads chats. And as his former team atleast i shouldve been informed that the offer was lowered to 2m as a starting year, 2 million and minimum offer is not that far off in terms of money and he would have a bigger role in my team compared to brooklyn.

[Bryan Colangelo]

Few things here:

• 1) You post in the chat, so I find it difficult to believe you don't read it
  2) You do not have bird rights on O'Neale, or else I would have reached out 
• 3) You offered the lowest amount of money than anyone else for my client and still did not follow up. My job is not to reach out to the GMs and beg them to offer a contract to my client. 

It's unfortunate that this lead to this, but I did my job on broadcasting O'Neal needed a contract and a few teams reached out.  Also noticed how our conversation was on December 1st and todays date is December 23rd, that should of triggered you to reach back out if you really wanted my client. 

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Dec 23, 2020 23:02:53 GMT Bryan Colangelo said:

Few things here:

• 1) You post in the chat, so I find it difficult to believe you don't read it
  2) You do not have bird rights on O'Neale, or else I would have reached out 
• 3) You offered the lowest amount of money than anyone else for my client and still did not follow up. My job is not to reach out to the GMs and beg them to offer a contract to my client. 

It's unfortunate that this lead to this, but I did my job on broadcasting O'Neal needed a contract and a few teams reached out.  Also noticed how our conversation was on December 1st and todays date is December 23rd, that should of triggered you to reach back out if you really wanted my client. 

1.Just because i post doesnt mean that i read previous chats, assuming he had an offer of 18,500,000 at the start, im thinking it should been higher offer 23 days later.

2. I offered a low amount because i was offering Kawhi during that time all my money

3. Your job is to get the best contract for the player as a player Agent, it means even just having a headsup that the 18,500,000 contract was off the table which has discouraged me from offering more than what i offered in the first place.

[Tom Izzo]

Both of you guys are at fault 🤷🏻‍♂️

1 - I do not think O'Neal should have signed this long of a contract this cheaply and that better communication between the player agent and the previous team should have taken place. I do think a heads up is okay that the previous offer was withdrawn and that unless he gives something more than the minimum, the player will be signing elsewhere, leaving the original organization.

2 - I do think Miami should have been more proactive, aware, and diligent in their off season tasks. You could have reached out a few more times, especially after striking out on Kawhi. It looks like you either forgot about him or didn't care enough to really try until it was too late.

[Jared Montini]

Dec 24, 2020 1:09:31 GMT Tom Izzo said:

Both of you guys are at fault 🤷🏻‍♂️

1 - I do not think O'Neal should have signed this long of a contract this cheaply and that better communication between the player agent and the previous team should have taken place. I do think a heads up is okay that the previous offer was withdrawn and that unless he gives something more than the minimum, the player will be signing elsewhere, leaving the original organization.

2 - I do think Miami should have been more proactive, aware, and diligent in their off season tasks. You could have reached out a few more times, especially after striking out on Kawhi. It looks like you either forgot about him or didn't care enough to really try until it was too late.

my exact opinion

[George Gervin]

Why is this the hill folks are dying on? O’Neale is a solid player, but this isn’t market breaking. If teams won’t pony up for money, the PA should look at situation. Brooklyn and Miami are not comparable IMO.

And if we’re talking contracts, who was bidding for Okafor, or $14 MM for Gasol? It’s not like money wasn’t available from Miami to up the offer— they chose to spend it elsewhere, and didn’t appear to let the PA know they were interested once they found out a non lowball offer was on the table. Everyone’s an adult and shouldn’t have to be hand held to check in on offers

[Jared Montini]

Dec 24, 2020 1:49:31 GMT George Gervin said:

Why is this the hill folks are dying on? O’Neale is a solid player, but this isn’t market breaking. If teams won’t pony up for money, the PA should look at situation. Brooklyn and Miami are not comparable IMO.

And if we’re talking contracts, who was bidding for Okafor, or $14 MM for Gasol? It’s not like money wasn’t available from Miami to up the offer— they chose to spend it elsewhere, and didn’t appear to let the PA know they were interested once they found out a non lowball offer was on the table. Everyone’s an adult and shouldn’t have to be hand held to check in on offers

it’s not O’Neal that we are dying on. It’s that no NBA player would take a 4 year deal that cheap. The min contract will be like 2 mil in a few years. There’s no reason not to ask a team to offer a 2 year deal maybe even a 3.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Dec 24, 2020 1:09:31 GMT Tom Izzo said:

Both of you guys are at fault 🤷🏻‍♂️

1 - I do not think O'Neal should have signed this long of a contract this cheaply and that better communication between the player agent and the previous team should have taken place. I do think a heads up is okay that the previous offer was withdrawn and that unless he gives something more than the minimum, the player will be signing elsewhere, leaving the original organization.

2 - I do think Miami should have been more proactive, aware, and diligent in their off season tasks. You could have reached out a few more times, especially after striking out on Kawhi. It looks like you either forgot about him or didn't care enough to really try until it was too late.

having an 18.5 million contract at the first week of free agency turns off many suitors of Oneal. only to find out the offer was out after so many weeks. its absurd for him to sign this really low offer with a low chance of cracking the rotation for years to come.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Also looking at my offers to the PF position, i have to follow up on my offers after 5 days or so, so that i can get a reply from you Bryan Colangelo (Lyles,Ibaka) only to find out after i sent a PM to you again that Ibaka already decided on which team he would sign.

No "We will keep you updated" thing came from you which obviously come from lack of engagement during this offseason, what happened was my cap was at Ibaka for how many days without any response from you.

again Your job is to get the best contract for the player as a player Agent, it means even just having a heads up that the 18,500,000 contract was off the table which has discouraged me from offering more than what i offered in the first place which you didnt do.

[Ian Noble]

It looks like there's room for improvement here from both sides of the story but I stand behind Bryan Colangelo's decision and the signing should stand. Being a player agent is a hell of a job, there will always be things that slip through the net each year, luckily Royce O'Neale is not a franchise player and there's still plenty of good players left in the pool.

Shaquille O'Neal sorry you missed your man here, I completely see how you thought you should stop bidding and moved on, but the signing will stand.

[George Gervin]

Dec 24, 2020 4:38:22 GMT Shaquille O'Neal said:

Dec 24, 2020 1:09:31 GMT Tom Izzo said:

Both of you guys are at fault 🤷🏻‍♂️

1 - I do not think O'Neal should have signed this long of a contract this cheaply and that better communication between the player agent and the previous team should have taken place. I do think a heads up is okay that the previous offer was withdrawn and that unless he gives something more than the minimum, the player will be signing elsewhere, leaving the original organization.

2 - I do think Miami should have been more proactive, aware, and diligent in their off season tasks. You could have reached out a few more times, especially after striking out on Kawhi. It looks like you either forgot about him or didn't care enough to really try until it was too late.

having an 18.5 million contract at the first week of free agency turns off many suitors of Oneal. only to find out the offer was out after so many weeks. its absurd for him to sign this really low offer with a low chance of cracking the rotation for years to come.

If you thought that offer was too punitive, then why are you complaining? You’ve made it clear twice now that you felt an opening week offer like that was too much, and you weren’t interested. What this sounds more like is you couldn’t get him back on some lowball, cheap deal, got rightfully outbid, and then didn’t follow up to see what was up after striking out on other guys. There’s lots of cases of deals contingent on other signings— that’s not something new to D5 OSFA.