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Post by Dominique Wilkins on Nov 19, 2012 5:43:05 GMT
Jeff Teague/Greivis Vasquez
Current Rating: 71/73
Proposed Rating: 79-80
In 66 starts last season, Teague stats are as follows: 12.6 ppg, 4.9 apg, 2.4 rpg, 1.6 spg, 2.03 tpg, .467 fg %, .342 3pt %
Teague this season… 13.8 ppg, 6.3 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.5 spg, 3.13 tpg, .523 fg %, .429 3pt %
In 66 starts last season, Vazquez stats are as follows: 8.9 ppg, 5.4 apg, 2.6 rpg, 0.9 spg, 2.24 tpg, .430 fg %, .319 3pt %
Vasquez this season… 11.8 ppg, 8.9 apg, 3.6 rpg, 0.4 spg, 2.88 tpg, .343 fg %, .320 3pt %
Their stats are comparable to other players in the league currently… 79 Mike Conley 79 Mario Chalmers 79 Brandon Knight 79 Ty Lawson 79 Ramon Sessions 80 Jeremy Lin
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Teague: Avg 79
Denver - 78 Dallas - 80 Minny - 79 Utah - 79 Phoenix - 79 Memphis - ??
Vasquez: Avg 77
Denver - 75-76 Dallas - 78 Minny - 77 Utah - 74 Phoenix - 77 Memphis - 79-80
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Post by Greg Schiano on Nov 19, 2012 6:05:48 GMT
Ramon Sessions, first of all, shouldn't be a 79.
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Post by Dominique Wilkins on Nov 19, 2012 15:30:53 GMT
Ramon Sessions, first of all, shouldn't be a 79. In Sessions defense, his numbers have also been comparable to all the guys listed...if anyone on this list shouldn't be a 79 it's Chalmers. Just sayin'
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Post by Alex English on Nov 19, 2012 16:55:32 GMT
Neither of these guys are 80s. Teague could go as high as 78 imo, he's been consistently decent.
Vazquez though has a long way to go before then. He's playing great right now, but he's on the Hornets so I don't know how much of that can be attributed to playing on a bad team and having his stats inflated. I'd put him around 75-76 for now.
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Post by Dominique Wilkins on Nov 19, 2012 19:21:35 GMT
Neither of these guys are 80s. Teague could go as high as 78 imo, he's been consistently decent. Vazquez though has a long way to go before then. He's playing great right now, but he's on the Hornets so I don't know how much of that can be attributed to playing on a bad team and having his stats inflated. I'd put him around 75-76 for now. All I'm saying is if you look at the players (PG's listed), that the two guys I asked for increases on have comparable numbers to nearly any of them and they are ALL rated 79-80.
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Post by Greg Schiano on Nov 20, 2012 2:13:42 GMT
If you think Chalmers shouldn't be there, you underrate what he does for the Heat. they don't win the finals without him.
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Post by Danny Longley on Nov 27, 2012 13:34:50 GMT
I had Dragic as an 82, so I'd say Teague would good with 2 points lower at 80, and Vasquez another 2 lower with 78. Teague has solid percentages and a good TO Rate, getting more burn as a starter to my chagrin
Vasquez has been solid for quite a while though his low FG% and slightly higher TOs stop me from putting him at 80s.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Nov 27, 2012 15:02:21 GMT
Teague around 79 for me.
Vasquez around 77 at this point.
These are guys who, if they do this all season, I go higher at that point.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Nov 28, 2012 0:26:25 GMT
Teague - 79
Vasquez - 74
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Post by Dominique Wilkins on Nov 28, 2012 0:27:56 GMT
Ouch
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Post by Dominique Wilkins on Nov 28, 2012 0:29:28 GMT
Teague around 79 for me. Vasquez around 77 at this point. These are guys who, if they do this all season, I go higher at that point. Preciate it!
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Nov 28, 2012 0:29:45 GMT
Ouch Vasquez is alright, but he's only been alright for 13 games. He shoots 42% and doesn't do well on defense. He'll be pretty good one day, but you can't really warrant a near 80 rating on such a small sample of work.
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Post by Dominique Wilkins on Nov 28, 2012 0:30:03 GMT
I had Dragic as an 82, so I'd say Teague would good with 2 points lower at 80, and Vasquez another 2 lower with 78. Teague has solid percentages and a good TO Rate, getting more burn as a starter to my chagrin Vasquez has been solid for quite a while though his low FG% and slightly higher TOs stop me from putting him at 80s. Preciate it!
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Post by Walt Frazier on Nov 28, 2012 3:42:58 GMT
Ouch Vasquez is alright, but he's only been alright for 13 games. He shoots 42% and doesn't do well on defense. He'll be pretty good one day, but you can't really warrant a near 80 rating on such a small sample of work. Vasquez has done this last season as well, when given PT. In 26 games as a starter in 2011, he put up 12ppg, 7apg, 3rpg, 1spg, shot 45% from the field, 86% from the line, 33% from 3pt. Pretty damn good. In addition to what he's done this year, I think we can safely say he's around a 77 guy right now. Very good bench player - low-end starter.
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Post by JP Inawat on Nov 28, 2012 6:46:05 GMT
Teague - 79 Vasquez - 77
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Post by Greg Schiano on Nov 28, 2012 11:04:40 GMT
Vasquez should be a 79, if not an 80. Kid's a hard worker and makes guys around him better.
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 1, 2013 17:04:40 GMT
Vasquez's numbers went up in the last games. He is scoring decently with good shooting averages, he is rebounding, he is passing. He deserves a big boost for sure.
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jan 17, 2013 14:58:11 GMT
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Post by Danny Longley on Jan 17, 2013 15:18:32 GMT
I think he's done enough to make me retract my earlier doubts, particularly with efficiency - though his TOs still get pretty high. I'd call him a legit 80 at this point.
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