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Post by James Kay on Feb 10, 2020 17:50:45 GMT
 Charlotte Hornets Send: Marcin Gortat $5,733,907 (Dead Salary) Charlotte Hornets Receive: Austin Rivers $4,727,611 Salaries: Total Outgoing: $5,733,907 Total Incoming: $4,727,611  Miami Heat Send: Austin Rivers $4,727,611 Miami HeatReceive: Marcin Gortat $5,733,907 (Dead Salary) Salaries: Total Outgoing: $4,727,611 Total Incoming: $5,733,907
I accept. |
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Feb 10, 2020 17:51:47 GMT
need to lose some games as i cannot win right now. accept.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 10, 2020 18:00:51 GMT
Is this anything more than a blatant tanking attempt? Haven't we rejected trades like this in the past?
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Feb 10, 2020 18:06:35 GMT
Is this anything more than a blatant tanking attempt? Haven't we rejected trades like this in the past? do we have rules about it? |
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 10, 2020 18:12:46 GMT
We've not rejected trades based on team direction. I have rejected sim changes when a team's only 80+ player is benched for tanking purposes though.
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 10, 2020 18:12:54 GMT
I accept.
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MIA - CHA
Feb 10, 2020 20:18:48 GMT
via mobile
Post by Bryan Colangelo on Feb 10, 2020 20:18:48 GMT
Accept
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MIA - CHA
Feb 10, 2020 20:22:58 GMT
via mobile
Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 10, 2020 20:22:58 GMT
I accept
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 10, 2020 21:14:03 GMT
This is kinda dumb, so the Hornets get a 78 rated player on an expiring contract for free? I understand the Heat want to tank now but how is this a fair trade at all?
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Feb 10, 2020 21:22:32 GMT
This is kinda dumb, so the Hornets get a 78 rated player on an expiring contract for free? I understand the Heat want to tank now but how is this a fair trade at all? does anyone want to trade their 2nd rounders for an Expiring Rivers? |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 10, 2020 21:28:03 GMT
This is kinda dumb, so the Hornets get a 78 rated player on an expiring contract for free? I understand the Heat want to tank now but how is this a fair trade at all? does anyone want to trade their 2nd rounders for an Expiring Rivers? It doesn't matter either way. Why not just cut the players? Why are you helping Charlotte and San Antonio? It's not fair to the rest of us. We shouldn't allow one GM to enrich another GM with no reason/purpose. It's basically collusion. |
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Feb 10, 2020 21:57:04 GMT
does anyone want to trade their 2nd rounders for an Expiring Rivers? It doesn't matter either way. Why not just cut the players? Why are you helping Charlotte and San Antonio? It's not fair to the rest of us. We shouldn't allow one GM to enrich another GM with no reason/purpose. It's basically collusion. Cha is a division rival while Spurs is the only one with expiring contract that can get Marc Gasol. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Feb 10, 2020 22:38:04 GMT
Miami's intent was clear. So, I think there is nothing fishy about it.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Feb 11, 2020 6:16:47 GMT
Austin Rivers is dog shit just put in a stock watch on him and quit bitching.
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 11, 2020 19:50:31 GMT
James Kay needs to release a player before this deal can go through.
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Post by James Kay on Feb 11, 2020 20:15:15 GMT
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 11, 2020 20:19:54 GMT
lmao
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 11, 2020 20:20:06 GMT
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Post by George Gervin on Feb 11, 2020 20:20:25 GMT
Wow— the definition of no risk deal now for me on Gasol lol
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Post by Jerry West on Feb 11, 2020 20:24:10 GMT
Wait, how much MIA was over the hard before those trades? He only receives more 3 Million in the Covington trade
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Post by George Gervin on Feb 11, 2020 20:24:21 GMT
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Post by Tom Izzo on Feb 11, 2020 20:25:01 GMT
We're going to have to go back and look at timing. Not all of the trades put Miami over the hard cap. He was under before he started wheeling and dealing I'm pretty sure.
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Post by James Kay on Feb 11, 2020 20:36:44 GMT
Prior to the Spurs-Heat trade:Miami salaries at: 165,746,904 Trade increases MIA salary. Already over the cap, can't increase salary. INVALID. Prior to the Detroit-Miami trade:Miami salaries at: 161,348,649 Trade brings it up to 165,746,904. Trade exceeds hard cap. INVALIDPrior to the Portland-Milwaukee-Miami trade:Miami salaries at: 157,931,671 Trade brings it up to 161,348,649 Trade does NOT exceed hard cap. VALID.Sorry for confusion before, I just assumed the first one was also in violation because they were posted in a flurry of activity. But the POR-MIL-MIA trade was posted an hour before the DET-MIA trade, so that one should go through.
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MIA - CHA
Feb 11, 2020 20:39:33 GMT
via mobile
Post by Jerry West on Feb 11, 2020 20:39:33 GMT
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Post by Tom Izzo on Feb 11, 2020 20:41:25 GMT
Agreed with James Kay here. Portland trade should be good.
If Detroit-Miami remove Joakim Noah for Timofey Mozgov, that trade would also be good. Same exact thing, just different contract. If they agree to switch the dead money contract their trade is valid.
But the Charlotte and Spurs trades would have to be nullified.
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 11, 2020 20:46:10 GMT
Thanks James Kay  I don't think we've had deals reversed before but it's happening! |
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Post by James Kay on Feb 11, 2020 20:49:36 GMT
Agreed with James Kay here. Portland trade should be good. If Detroit-Miami remove Joakim Noah for Timofey Mozgov, that trade would also be good. Same exact thing, just different contract. If they agree to switch the dead money contract their trade is valid. But the Charlotte and Spurs trades would have to be nullified. Agreed fully with Tom here. Aim should be to adhere to the rules with as little disruption or full-on repeal as possible. |
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Feb 11, 2020 21:08:44 GMT
Prior to the Portland-Milwaukee-Miami trade:
Miami salaries at: 157,931,671
Trade brings it up to 161,348,649
Trade does NOT exceed hard cap. VALID.
Dallas -Miami
Miami salaries at: 161,348,649
Trade brings it down to: 160,510,661
Trade does NOT exceed hard cap. VALID.
Edited the Detroit Miami trade
Miami salaries at: 161,348,649
Trade brings it up to: 161,980,192
Trade does NOT exceed hard cap. VALID.
Miami- Cha
Miami salaries at: 161,348,649
Trade brings it up to: 162,986,488
Trade does NOT exceed hard cap. VALID.
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Feb 11, 2020 21:11:38 GMT
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 11, 2020 21:36:44 GMT
You had the perfect opportunity to undo your Detroit trade and you blew it |
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Miami Heat
Brooklyn Nets
Boston Celtics
Toronto Raptors
Minnesota Timberwolves
Cleveland Cavaliers
San Antonio Spurs
Portland Trailblazers
Houston Rockets
I don't think we've had deals reversed before but it's happening!