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Post by James Kay on Nov 7, 2019 19:00:43 GMT
 Charlotte Hornets Send: 97 Kevin Durant $40,080,022 $43,086,023 $46,317,475
Salary before trade: $183,898,478 Salary after trade: $182,146,667
 Golden State Warriors Send: 97 LeBron James $38,328,211 $41,002,272
Salary before trade: $142,311,781
Salary after trade: $144,063,592
Golden State has lost Curry and Klay for long periods of time, if not the season. Cousins is out for the Bulls. Denver and Milwaukee are the only true remaining other contenders. The league will soon belong to BKN, BOS, MEM (they may be contenders as well, already, actually).
PG expires after this year. Westbrook has a PO at the end of the season. I couldn't let this season, the potential end of our contending window, slip away while we waited for Durant to return.
With Westbrook, Middleton, PG, and Lebron, we hope to make a serious push at bringing another title to Charlotte.
Good luck to GSW, and best wishes to Durant during his recovery.
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Post by Jared Montini on Nov 7, 2019 19:14:03 GMT
Damn I was not expecting this, biggest trade ever?
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Nov 7, 2019 19:15:25 GMT
god dammit
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Post by Larry Bird on Nov 7, 2019 19:23:52 GMT
WHHHAAAAAAAAATTTTT?  !!!!!!!! |
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 7, 2019 19:54:00 GMT
So many times I've been trying to propose a 3-way and then the other two GMs go and get a deal done by themselves   This deal works fantastically for both teams. I accept. |
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Post by Chris Mullin on Nov 7, 2019 19:57:14 GMT
No matter what we did, we weren't going to be serious contenders this season. With Klay out for the year and KD out for the year, I guess we will "tank" this season and spend it getting ready for next year. If KD returns to close the player he was before the injury the idea of a Steph-Klay-KD trio is too good to pass up in my opinion.
I also do not want to deal with the headache of re-signing both Steph and LeBron potentiallly next off-season. This move gives me at least one year with KD and potentially two if he accepts that $46M option the following season. I will worry about re-signing him when that time comes.
I don't have time to elaborate much more right now, but I can give more reasoning later if need be. This swap works out well for both James and I, given where are current teams are at this point in time.
I accept.
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Nov 7, 2019 19:59:59 GMT
Great trade guys! Awesome job
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 7, 2019 20:23:47 GMT
Man fucking Golden State lucky asses in real life and D5.
Great trade for both teams.
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Nov 7, 2019 20:59:47 GMT
I did this trade and got trashed right away when Lebron was still in Miami and the reason? "realism" they said that this trade will NEVER happen in real life. Im calling out all the trade committee if this trade goes thru ill resign.
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Nov 7, 2019 21:04:48 GMT
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Nov 7, 2019 21:06:05 GMT
Im tagging you Ian Noble reread your reasoning declining the trade before. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 7, 2019 21:18:00 GMT
I did this trade and got trashed right away when Lebron was still in Miami and the reason? "realism" they said that this trade will NEVER happen in real life. Im calling out all the trade committee if this trade goes thru ill resign. Five years have passed, Durant and Lebron are no longer on their original real-life teams, realism is no longer an issue. Resigning because of this only shows you might be looking for an excuse to do so. I'll take this as a warning that I need to step up my efforts to re-energise the league, I admit I've lost a step on my old self during the drama I've experience this year. |
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Nov 7, 2019 21:36:35 GMT
I did this trade and got trashed right away when Lebron was still in Miami and the reason? "realism" they said that this trade will NEVER happen in real life. Im calling out all the trade committee if this trade goes thru ill resign. Five years have passed, Durant and Lebron are no longer on their original real-life teams, realism is no longer an issue. Resigning because of this only shows you might be looking for an excuse to do so. I'll take this as a warning that I need to step up my efforts to re-energise the league, I admit I've lost a step on my old self during the drama I've experience this year. Will the lakers trade Lebron to brooklyn for KD straight up regardless of their teammates? Also they are no longer in their original real life teams. "Realism" should still be an issue here as Lebron and KD are in the same situation in real life. Reject this trade and then edit the general infothat emphasize "realism" dynasty5ive.proboards.com/thread/29/dynasty-general-info |
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 7, 2019 21:52:24 GMT
Five years have passed, Durant and Lebron are no longer on their original real-life teams, realism is no longer an issue. Resigning because of this only shows you might be looking for an excuse to do so. I'll take this as a warning that I need to step up my efforts to re-energise the league, I admit I've lost a step on my old self during the drama I've experience this year. Will the lakers trade Lebron to brooklyn for KD straight up regardless of their teammates? Also they are no longer in their original real life teams. "Realism" should still be an issue here as Lebron and KD are in the same situation in real life. Reject this trade and then edit the general infothat emphasize "realism" dynasty5ive.proboards.com/thread/29/dynasty-general-infoIt's great that you're posting for the first time since July but maybe you're just being a fucking drama queen. |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Nov 7, 2019 21:57:49 GMT
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Post by Walt Frazier on Nov 7, 2019 23:39:12 GMT
I'm SO here for some yelling back and forth. Get it fellas.
As for this trade, I accept.
As for Shaq - if you haven't been paying enough attention to how the real NBA has changed, dramatically so, over the last 5 years (ish) - we can't help you.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 8, 2019 0:24:41 GMT
Im tagging you Ian Noble reread your reasoning declining the trade before. Going back through this. I have to say that the "REALISM" aspect to trades has certainly fallen off in recent years most likely due to how the NBA and D5 have diverged significantly. In your favor think the age difference excuse was a bit silly especially since it's like 3 years max and both players were very good. However, if I'm not mistaken. That trade wasn't declined to protect you, it was made to protect a brand new GM and it was mentioned multiple times how it was actually definitely fair and likely had the other GM been relatively active for a bit those realism excuses would likely have been ignored because it would have been a good trade. Combining that with the fact we had recently had multiple new GMs start a season, trade away all their assets and then leave my guess is that had more to do with it than anything. Particularly since he started off by saying he didn't even care about the pick and look at where that attitude has left some teams. You have a point. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 8, 2019 0:26:44 GMT
Will the lakers trade Lebron to brooklyn for KD straight up regardless of their teammates? Also they are no longer in their original real life teams. "Realism" should still be an issue here as Lebron and KD are in the same situation in real life. Reject this trade and then edit the general infothat emphasize "realism" dynasty5ive.proboards.com/thread/29/dynasty-general-infoIt's great that you're posting for the first time since July but maybe you're just being a fucking drama queen. Ian, I don't think not posting since July is really a fair critique. Typically once the season and OSFA is over I literally set a date on my clock and don't even log in. This year was weird because the stopping point never really happened. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Nov 8, 2019 2:10:07 GMT
I am always with the guy who is attacking the argument instead of the person in the other party. If you cannot fully rebut or explain your side, my vote will be with Shaq.
I have a realistic argument for this trade to be accepted but I will not bring it out because the culprits have failed to clear themselves.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Nov 8, 2019 2:16:08 GMT
CONSPIRACY ABOUNDS
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Nov 8, 2019 18:03:21 GMT
Will the lakers trade Lebron to brooklyn for KD straight up regardless of their teammates? Also they are no longer in their original real life teams. "Realism" should still be an issue here as Lebron and KD are in the same situation in real life. Reject this trade and then edit the general infothat emphasize "realism" dynasty5ive.proboards.com/thread/29/dynasty-general-infoIt's great that you're posting for the first time since July but maybe you're just being a fucking drama queen. Seriously you are gonna attack me from not commenting to posts since July? I am actively sending trade requests and offering contracts to players since last month. Dude im doing my part on maintaining realism in this league that you brought up years before. Yes it was 5 years ago but still it won't happen today in real life. We want player contracts to be lessened to be more "realistic" like the NBA We don't want team options on players because it is not "realistic like NBA does" But when it comes to trading everything is fine and we don't need realism because "a lot of things happened in 5 years" |
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Post by Tom Izzo on Nov 8, 2019 22:12:39 GMT
I did this trade and got trashed right away when Lebron was still in Miami and the reason? "realism" they said that this trade will NEVER happen in real life. Im calling out all the trade committee if this trade goes thru ill resign. Don't make promises you can't keep. |
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Post by Jerry West on Nov 8, 2019 22:31:50 GMT
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Nov 9, 2019 15:13:07 GMT
Not trying to derail this trade any more, but it’s a bit strange that Charlotte can do this when it results in him being way over the hard cap. I just saw that our rule is “must reduce salary” if you are over the hard cap, but shouldn’t it be “cannot result in you being over the hard cap”? We can’t apply that to this trade obviously, but it just seems strange that Charlotte is allowed to make a move that keeps him above the hard cap.
Something to think about for the future at least.
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Post by Alex English on Nov 9, 2019 15:53:32 GMT
I don't think Shaquille O'Neal is totally wrong, but a lot of things really have changed. Durant was being traded away from his original Thunder team that was one of the best in the league. He had strong ties to the team as it was the only one he'd ever played for. This was still a time where Lebron going to Miami pissed people off. Now, in large part thanks to Lebron, the idea of loyalty between a team and player is good and dead. The Raptors traded DeRozan, OKC traded Westbrook, Paul George and Anthony Davis demanded trades, the entire Kawhi Leonard thing, etc. The league has gone a little crazy in the last few years. So our old perception of realism is completely gone. The other big thing to me is that this trade actually makes a lot of sense given what's going on with CHA and GSW. The old trade just seemed to be a trade for the sake of it. So yeah, I accept. Fuck you James Kay. |
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Post by Danny Longley on Nov 9, 2019 19:15:49 GMT
I don't think I was part of the TC at the time of the earlier trade, but I do think that at the time, we did believe that Durant was one of those Kobe/Duncan/Dirk types that could have stayed with the team his whole career. Two team swaps later, we know that's not the case anymore.
It also seems that part of the rejection was because one of the GMs involved was relatively new and unproven - clearly not the case with James and Chris. I don't think we'd see either GM just suddenly ducking out on the league without a trace.
I do still think that a trade of this magnitude is kind of a stretch, but I think it makes enough sense for both teams that I'm fine with it.
Accept.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Nov 9, 2019 22:46:10 GMT
Five years have passed, Durant and Lebron are no longer on their original real-life teams, realism is no longer an issue. Resigning because of this only shows you might be looking for an excuse to do so. I'll take this as a warning that I need to step up my efforts to re-energise the league, I admit I've lost a step on my old self during the drama I've experience this year. Will the lakers trade Lebron to brooklyn for KD straight up regardless of their teammates? Also they are no longer in their original real life teams. "Realism" should still be an issue here as Lebron and KD are in the same situation in real life. Reject this trade and then edit the general infothat emphasize "realism" dynasty5ive.proboards.com/thread/29/dynasty-general-infoI just wanna point out that the points of Shaq in this one still stand. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 10, 2019 6:27:28 GMT
Not trying to derail this trade any more, but it’s a bit strange that Charlotte can do this when it results in him being way over the hard cap. I just saw that our rule is “must reduce salary” if you are over the hard cap, but shouldn’t it be “cannot result in you being over the hard cap”? We can’t apply that to this trade obviously, but it just seems strange that Charlotte is allowed to make a move that keeps him above the hard cap. Something to think about for the future at least. I believe that since this technically reduces his cap threshhold this is "legal" That said I'm in favor of this being denied on technicality because fuck em both. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 10, 2019 15:53:59 GMT
Trade passed.
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