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Post by Jerry West on Jan 28, 2019 18:17:35 GMT
This is the long shot of all deals, but if the Nuggets built an offer around Murray, Millsap, and MPJr, would NOP turn that down? The Brow with Jokic and Gary Harris? Now THAT is an intriguing group Milsa has no value to NOP, MPJ until he plays or proves he can play is at best worth a 2nd round pick, there's a reason everyone was passing him on draft night, he has a career defining injury. Murray is a good asset but that's about it, can get way better offers elsewhere.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 28, 2019 18:33:31 GMT
This is the long shot of all deals, but if the Nuggets built an offer around Murray, Millsap, and MPJr, would NOP turn that down? The Brow with Jokic and Gary Harris? Now THAT is an intriguing group Milsa has no value to NOP, MPJ until he plays or proves he can play is at best worth a 2nd round pick, there's a reason everyone was passing him on draft night, he has a career defining injury. Murray is a good asset but that's about it, can get way better offers elsewhere. What better asset than Jamal can they get? Only Tatum, Ben Simmons or Zion would be better and I doubt those are on the table. Perhaps Siakim if they're super high on him.
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Post by Jerry West on Jan 28, 2019 18:52:12 GMT
I really like Murray, but I would rather take a shot at the Ingram Lonzo Kuzma and Zubac any day, than just Murray.
That's just me tho, I can understand if you feel differently because right now Murray has the higher upside of the 5, but I rather take my chances on 4 good young guys
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jan 28, 2019 20:06:04 GMT
I really like Murray, but I would rather take a shot at the Ingram Lonzo Kuzma and Zubac any day, than just Murray. That's just me tho, I can understand if you feel differently because right now Murray has the higher upside of the 5, but I rather take my chances on 4 good young guys The problem the Lakers have is that anyone currently on the roster not named LeBron is not likely to ever be an allstar. I don’t think NOP is going to trade Davis for a package of bleh.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jan 28, 2019 20:07:40 GMT
From ESPN:
Marks: Tell Demps that everyone is available except for Embiid. The 76ers have clearly shown they are in win-now mode. The hard part is making the finances work. Philadelphia would have to offer a package of Simmons, Wilson Chandler, Markelle Fultz, their own pick this season and the 2021 Miami first-rounder to gain any interest from the Pelicans.
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Post by Billy King on Jan 28, 2019 20:53:40 GMT
AD only made the playoffs twice in his 7 year career so far! Its staggering how incompetent Dell Demps has been. That should be impossible. Even Kevin McHale or David Kahn might've done a better job D5's Billy King (the original) would've done a better job
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Post by Jerry West on Jan 28, 2019 20:55:05 GMT
Its staggering how incompetent Dell Demps has been. That should be impossible. Even Kevin McHale or David Kahn might've done a better job D5's Billy King (the original) would've done a better job There's 2 Billy Kings?
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Post by Billy King on Jan 28, 2019 21:35:34 GMT
D5's Billy King (the original) would've done a better job There's 2 Billy Kings? That's what I've heard
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Post by James Kay on Jan 28, 2019 22:02:25 GMT
Crazy to think about how a player's IRL and D5 trajectory can differ so drastically. I would never ever expect D5 Davis to request a trade from D5 Milwaukee (though maybe one of his nice young studs like Turner or Lauri should!).
I wonder how available the rest of the Pelicans will be after this. Jrue would be a fantastic addition to any contending team. Mirotic too if he can stay healthy.
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Post by George Gervin on Jan 28, 2019 22:08:34 GMT
Crazy to think about how a player's IRL and D5 trajectory can differ so drastically. I would never ever expect D5 Davis to request a trade from D5 Milwaukee (though maybe one of his nice young studs like Turner or Lauri should!). I wonder how available the rest of the Pelicans will be after this. Jrue would be a fantastic addition to any contending team. Mirotic too if he can stay healthy. Jrue to the Pacers makes a ton of sense to pair him with Dipo— it’d probably cost them Sabonis or Turner, but Jrue-Dipo-Turner/Sabonis out East with cap space is intriguing
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 28, 2019 22:09:50 GMT
D5's Billy King (the original) would've done a better job There's 2 Billy Kings? He was GM of the Nets from May 2013 - July 2014 and always wrote about how awesome he was, in the 3rd Person, and he got offended when we ripped him for it and left edit: it's the only time a GM has been allowed to take an old GM's name: partly because the original Billy King deleted his account, also because the current Billy King is known as Billy King in his D720 league and stuff... so yeah...
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Post by Billy King on Jan 28, 2019 22:20:16 GMT
Plot Twist: I'm actually the 3rd billy king
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 28, 2019 22:21:30 GMT
Plot Twist: I'm actually the 3rd billy king My life has been a lie
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 28, 2019 23:17:40 GMT
The gap between AD and Ben Simmons is definitely the size of someone's mom's vagina. Shit the gap between Jokic and Ben Simmons is the size of the next smallest mom's vagina.
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Post by Jerry West on Jan 28, 2019 23:28:22 GMT
Anyway, he isn't getting traded to Lakers after that Pelicans statement.
So no need to rush to conclusions, plus if they wait around a little bit they'll know the value of the picks being offered after the draft lottery.
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Post by Alex English on Jan 29, 2019 1:39:06 GMT
The gap between AD and Ben Simmons is definitely the size of someone's mom's vagina. Shit the gap between Jokic and Ben Simmons is the size of the next smallest mom's vagina. Something, something... hotdog down a hallway... something, something... still not as big as the gap between AD and Simmons. These guys are on totally different levels. I'd trade like 3 Ben Simmons for 1 Anthony Davis.
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Post by Tom Izzo on Jan 29, 2019 4:25:18 GMT
If I'm Philadelphia and Simmons is on the table I take that offer. Davis is obviously the better player, but Simmons has potential. Shooting isn't something you can pick up over night, but it's a learnable skill. Look at Blake Griffin. Simmons with a jump shot is very dangerous and if you're going to lose AD, I think Ben Simmons is a great consolation prize
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 29, 2019 9:46:12 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 30, 2019 2:45:01 GMT
Here's an intriguing question, given Embiid's health issues. What about a 1 for 1 with an agreement Davis resigns? I think that'd be at least comparable value even if Embiid kind of IS the 76ers.
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Post by Billy King on Jan 30, 2019 11:10:43 GMT
LOL AD's agent gonna come out and say he wont sign an extension with anyone but the lakers
Im just wondering what the city of new orleans did to him to make him try to royally fuck them as hard as possible upon exit
I'll be posting a hoodie burning video later this week
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 30, 2019 11:40:35 GMT
Here's an intriguing question, given Embiid's health issues. What about a 1 for 1 with an agreement Davis resigns? I think that'd be at least comparable value even if Embiid kind of IS the 76ers. I recognize that AD > Embiid right now, although there's not almost no difference between them imho, but I personally would keep Embiid because he has been the heart & soul of my team since I drafted him Also it's not like AD doesn't have his own lengthy injury history.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 30, 2019 18:30:30 GMT
I would like to see one team just say fuck it and not trade the player. Like fuck you I'm not helping another team get a massive advantage by helping them with contracts and shit.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 30, 2019 19:57:13 GMT
Dunc'ed on had an interesting Anthony Davis trade on their mock trade deadline
Anthony Davis Salary filler
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Kristaps Porzingis Nyk 2019 1st top 1 protected Courtney Lee Tim Hardaway Jr.
After this trade the knicks will have $40 million in cap space this summer to pair someone up with AD.
Thoughts?
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Post by Jared Montini on Jan 30, 2019 20:08:06 GMT
Dunc'ed on had an interesting Anthony Davis trade on their mock trade deadline Anthony Davis Salary filler For Kristaps Porzingis Nyk 2019 1st top 1 protected Courtney Lee Tim Hardaway Jr. After this trade the knicks will have $40 million in cap space this summer to pair someone up with AD. Thoughts? idk if I'd do that as NYK tbh. Seems like a huge risk if you can't get KD cuz it's proven AD can't carry a team very far
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Post by George Gervin on Jan 30, 2019 20:09:29 GMT
Dunc'ed on had an interesting Anthony Davis trade on their mock trade deadline Anthony Davis Salary filler For Kristaps Porzingis Nyk 2019 1st top 1 protected Courtney Lee Tim Hardaway Jr. After this trade the knicks will have $40 million in cap space this summer to pair someone up with AD. Thoughts? It’s not a terrible haul, though it’s a massive leap of faith for NOP that Porz will be fully healthy and that they feel Barrett/Morant can live up to at least 90% of the potential Zion could
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 30, 2019 20:11:31 GMT
Dunc'ed on had an interesting Anthony Davis trade on their mock trade deadline Anthony Davis Salary filler For Kristaps Porzingis Nyk 2019 1st top 1 protected Courtney Lee Tim Hardaway Jr. After this trade the knicks will have $40 million in cap space this summer to pair someone up with AD. Thoughts? If I'm NOP I counter by saying make it Porzingis, Hezonja and Ntilikina or Mitchell Robinson and no protections on that 1st. The Pelicans have him under contract for all of next season. They have all the leverage. NYK fans are dipshits and so are the people who write for them.
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Post by James Kay on Jan 30, 2019 20:34:28 GMT
Dunc'ed on had an interesting Anthony Davis trade on their mock trade deadline Anthony Davis Salary filler For Kristaps Porzingis Nyk 2019 1st top 1 protected Courtney Lee Tim Hardaway Jr. After this trade the knicks will have $40 million in cap space this summer to pair someone up with AD. Thoughts? If I'm NOP I counter by saying make it Porzingis, Hezonja and Ntilikina or Mitchell Robinson and no protections on that 1st. The Pelicans have him under contract for all of next season. They have all the leverage. NYK fans are dipshits and so are the people who write for them. No you
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Post by George Gervin on Feb 4, 2019 19:46:28 GMT
Per Shams Charonia at the Athletic, Klutch Sports on ADs behalf said he’d sign with the Lakers, Clippers, Knicks or Bucks only— no other teams if he’s traded to them.
Usual big market players, but interesting to see the Bucks there
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 4, 2019 19:57:42 GMT
Per Shams Charonia at the Athletic, Klutch Sports on ADs behalf said he’d sign with the Lakers, Clippers, Knicks or Bucks only— no other teams if he’s traded to them. Usual big market players, but interesting to see the Bucks there Pfft always trying to copy D5. First DSJ to New York, now this. Amateurs.
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Post by George Gervin on Feb 10, 2019 22:25:52 GMT
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