Ricky Rubio

[Billy King]

Cut

[Josh Barber]

yikes

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

This kind of moves is NOT SIMULATING real life. I get the point but we should make a rule to not allow this in the future.

[Ian Noble]

Billy King there's a long line of potential new GMs who would actually appreciate holding the position.

[Billy King]

Someone give me expiring for him then

Literally the least amount of value I can receive

Until then this move is more than valid

[Larry Bird]

You’re willing to pay him $20 mil to not play for you?
If you’re paying him that much why not just keep him?

[Kevin Hollis]

Jan 6, 2019 14:40:21 GMT Larry Bird said:

You’re willing to pay him $20 mil to not play for you?
If you’re paying him that much why not just keep him?

He just wants to tank again. Definitely not realistic to drop Rubio or Morris though. Can't whine that no one will give him an expiring when Rubio's contract is crazy. 

[Jerry West]

You can't expect an expiring contract (which is an asset) plus a small asset in exchange for a horrible contract.

[Billy King]

Ok so then why should I pay to get rid of him when I can just cut him? Any intelligent GM would keep whatever pick I'd have to use to get rid of him and just cut him instead.

[Billy King]

I mean if I'm not allowed, fine. But it's 100% the correct move for the franchise because the team is garbage and I'm only prolonging my chance to have a good team by carrying these sad sacks of shit to a 10th seed.

[Kevin Hollis]

Jan 6, 2019 17:24:41 GMT Billy King said:

I mean if I'm not allowed, fine. But it's 100% the correct move for the franchise because the team is garbage and I'm only prolonging my chance to have a good team by carrying these sad sacks of shit to a 10th seed.

Because his contract stays on your team. If you trade him it doesn't. 

[Ian Noble]

For me the problem is you've officially been shopping both these players for five days, and now you're content to chain the Knicks to $36m of debt for the next three years? That's over a third of the entire Salary Cap. I'm sorry but WTF.

[Brian Scalabrine]

You could trade him for a worse player on a smaller contract easily. Rubio is still a good player

[Jared Montini]

I'm on Billy's side here. His team is far from contending and there's no way to get rid of rubios contract cuz we don't have buyouts. Billy wasn't the one who signed Rubio to that bad dea, itsbhis team. As for Hana saying it's unrealistic. Is starting batum at center and trading everyone you sign realistic?

[Kevin Hollis]

Jan 6, 2019 21:11:59 GMT Jared Montini said:

I'm on Billy's side here. His team is far from contending and there's no way to get rid of rubios contract cuz we don't have buyouts. Billy wasn't the one who signed Rubio to that bad dea, itsbhis team. As for Hana saying it's unrealistic. Is starting batum at center and trading everyone you sign realistic?

I think the point is that Billy wants a return on Rubio's contract which the problem. Billy: You can have Brandon Knight for him. There, you get your shitty player and the same contract.

[Jared Montini]

Jan 6, 2019 21:29:58 GMT Kevin Hollis said:

Jan 6, 2019 21:11:59 GMT Jared Montini said:

I'm on Billy's side here. His team is far from contending and there's no way to get rid of rubios contract cuz we don't have buyouts. Billy wasn't the one who signed Rubio to that bad dea, itsbhis team. As for Hana saying it's unrealistic. Is starting batum at center and trading everyone you sign realistic?

I think the point is that Billy wants a return on Rubio's contract which the problem. Billy: You can have Brandon Knight for him. There, you get your shitty player and the same contract.

what's the point in doing that though? He'd rather cut Rubio then lose more games. Rubio isn't worth anything rn and Billy would rather eat the salary than give up an asset

[Kevin Hollis]

Jan 6, 2019 21:32:18 GMT Jared Montini said:

Jan 6, 2019 21:29:58 GMT Kevin Hollis said:

I think the point is that Billy wants a return on Rubio's contract which the problem. Billy: You can have Brandon Knight for him. There, you get your shitty player and the same contract.

what's the point in doing that though? He'd rather cut Rubio then lose more games. Rubio isn't worth anything rn and Billy would rather eat the salary than give up an asset

Rather cut him then lose more games? The reason he is cutting him is because he doesn't want to win. Just bench him then.

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

LOL. It is unrealistic because NO TEAM in REAL LIFE had CUT a player with the caliber and with the contract of RUBIO to TANK.

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

Jan 6, 2019 21:11:59 GMT Jared Montini said:

I'm on Billy's side here. His team is far from contending and there's no way to get rid of rubios contract cuz we don't have buyouts. Billy wasn't the one who signed Rubio to that bad dea, itsbhis team. As for Hana saying it's unrealistic. Is starting batum at center and trading everyone you sign realistic?

Check your facts boy. 

[Jerry West]

I would support him as well but he is 8 or 9 on the conference right now. This is more of a desperate "I want Zion" move than anything

[Jared Montini]

Jan 6, 2019 21:35:04 GMT Kevin Hollis said:

Jan 6, 2019 21:32:18 GMT Jared Montini said:

what's the point in doing that though? He'd rather cut Rubio then lose more games. Rubio isn't worth anything rn and Billy would rather eat the salary than give up an asset

Rather cut him then lose more games? The reason he is cutting him is because he doesn't want to win. Just bench him then.

To lose more games* typo lol

[Jared Montini]

Jan 6, 2019 22:00:21 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

Jan 6, 2019 21:11:59 GMT Jared Montini said:

I'm on Billy's side here. His team is far from contending and there's no way to get rid of rubios contract cuz we don't have buyouts. Billy wasn't the one who signed Rubio to that bad dea, itsbhis team. As for Hana saying it's unrealistic. Is starting batum at center and trading everyone you sign realistic?

Check your facts boy. 

I meant Covington who is not a center. Don't act like any move you make is realistic

[Billy King]

force the mediocre teams to waste more years of their existence

i dont mind

i have all the time in the world

[Kevin Hollis]

It’s literally the hardest problem to solve in D5. There is no reason to be mediocre since money isn’t in play. How to fix it? Maybe mess with the lotto odds? I don’t know. Would love to have a discussion on this.

[Larry Bird]

I was just having this conversation with another GM today.

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

"Mediocrity is the worst place in the NBA" - WRONG...

[Josh Barber]

Maybe this should be allowed, but I also think that decisions like this should seriously impact free agency. You can't cut 2 of your starters (both of whom are on multi-year contracts and in their prime) and expect that free agents won't take notice. And with both Nurkic and Gordon as FAs this year, this seems extremely risky for NYK.

It is also a bit shortsighted IMO based on how tough it is to tank right now. NYK are the 8 seed in the most recent standings, and there are 8 teams with less than 5 wins. What is this move going to do? Improve their pick from #15 to #12? Is it really worth the backlash and OSFA damage?

[Kevin Hollis]

Jan 7, 2019 10:03:41 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

"Mediocrity is the worst place in the NBA" - WRONG...

This isn’t the nba, it is a sim league. Teams are okay with it in rl because owners get money. There is no reason to be average in a sim league.

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

Jan 7, 2019 12:15:35 GMT Kevin Hollis said:

Jan 7, 2019 10:03:41 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

"Mediocrity is the worst place in the NBA" - WRONG...

This isn’t the nba, it is a sim league. Teams are okay with it in rl because owners get money. There is no reason to be average in a sim league.

Nope. There are.. 

[Kevin Hollis]

Jan 7, 2019 12:27:49 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

Jan 7, 2019 12:15:35 GMT Kevin Hollis said:

This isn’t the nba, it is a sim league. Teams are okay with it in rl because owners get money. There is no reason to be average in a sim league.

Nope. There are.. 

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