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Post by George Gervin on May 30, 2018 2:16:00 GMT
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Post by Alex English on May 30, 2018 3:44:53 GMT
Wow, pretty crazy. Time to fire Colangelo and give Hinkie his rightful job back.
Here is Embiid taking a shot on twitter:
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Post by B k on May 30, 2018 3:54:10 GMT
Trash gm and trash person
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 30, 2018 7:26:58 GMT
Wow, I always knew Bryan Colangelo was shady AF. In all seriousness, this is a great article by the Ringer. But is any of this actually more than speculation? From what I can tell, an anonymous source within the Sixers supposedly confirmed that one of the accounts was BC, but the rest is just analytical links between that accounts and the other 4? Assuming it is all true, though, this really is an amazing piece. It's incredible how sensitive we see these high-profile individuals being in regards to social media. Kevin Durant making fake accounts to argue with people, Bryan Colangelo making fake accounts to defend himself. BC really does have some sort of inferiority complex after taking over for Sam Hinkie. You would think these guys are successful and mature enough to not worry about all the internet trolls, but they just can't seem to let it go. What is really going to be damaging here, IMO, is his comments about Embiid. You can't go after your Franchise like that, even if you are bitter about Hinkie drafting him instead of you. Like how immature is that? Just be glad he is on your team, don't go around trying to prove that you drafting Simmons was a stroke of genius while Hinkie drafting Embiid was a mistake. If I was a player seeing this, I would absolutely not want to go play for a toxic front office like that. BC needs to be ousted immediately, especially before free agency begins. I mean this guy is on social media decreasing the value of his own players (Okafor, Noel) just because he is mad that people are criticizing him. There is no way they will be able to attract ANY free agent to Philadelphia as long as he is there.
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Post by Ian Noble on May 30, 2018 8:24:39 GMT
If you get beyond the fact that this is insane and childish Colangelo behaviour, some of Popped Collar's tweets are really insightful for D5ers like us. Noel and Embiid's attitudes - I don't think he's wrong, even Embiid can be a lazy, arrogant prick. And it's also interesting that BC says Fultz's jumpshot and mental approach has something to do with his 'father figure' - (I google'd it) his trainer Keith Williams, who was dating Fultz's mother.
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Post by Ian Noble on May 30, 2018 8:36:44 GMT
Colangelo is definitely going to get fired. Incredible.
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Post by testaccount on May 30, 2018 10:07:52 GMT
Drafting Ben McLemore was a genius idea. Move on, find a new slant.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 30, 2018 10:23:21 GMT
Drafting Ben McLemore was a genius idea. Move on, find a new slant. Ben McLemore sucks. The only reasons the D5 Celtics have any semblance of a decent team is because they inherited a loaded roster. Current management hasn't done anything but trade away those players and lose games.
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Post by George Gervin on May 30, 2018 15:00:32 GMT
Sixers have solicited a private investigator to dig into the allegations. If these are true, and they do fire Colangelo as a result, if I’m the Sixers I have David Griffin on speed dial. If he says no, then I’d look at either the Warriors or Spurs assistant GMs to poach
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Post by Kevin Hollis on May 30, 2018 15:41:14 GMT
If Griff heads there, speculation will be full blown for LBJ.
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Post by Chris Mullin on May 30, 2018 15:53:25 GMT
This whole situation is fascinating to me. BC is obviously very insecure, but as someone mentioned earlier it's awfully tough to get away with something like this in todays technology age. Maybe the most damning piece of "evidence" to me is that several of the accounts follow the school basketball twitter account where his son currently plays. Just can't imagine that would be a coincidence.
This situation, like the Kevin Durant situation, goes to show that no matter how much money, fame, or power they have, these guys are still regular people like us and it bothers them when people talk shit about them. Social media/internet can be a very ruthless place at times
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Post by testaccount on May 30, 2018 18:13:49 GMT
Drafting Ben McLemore was a genius idea. Move on, find a new slant. Ben McLemore sucks. The only reasons the D5 Celtics have any semblance of a decent team is because they inherited a loaded roster. Current management hasn't done anything but trade away those players and lose games. Why are you making shit up??? This is a blatant lie and you should be ashamed to be spreading it and putting more in the world instead of being happy the C's are back and Ian Noble nursed them back with patience and support. Shame on you big fat lier. I hope your tv breaks tonight
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 30, 2018 18:28:00 GMT
Ben McLemore sucks. The only reasons the D5 Celtics have any semblance of a decent team is because they inherited a loaded roster. Current management hasn't done anything but trade away those players and lose games. Why are you making shit up??? This is a blatant lie and you should be ashamed to be spreading it and putting more in the world instead of being happy the C's are back and Ian Noble nursed them back with patience and support. Shame on you big fat lier. I hope your tv breaks tonight If you consider wearing giant collars to be good GMing, then yes I agree that Ian Noble is a great GM.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on May 30, 2018 18:57:29 GMT
I agree with Ian that looking past the childishness, the tweets are actually insightful. I find it interesting because being in such a high-profile position, he's not able to really speak his mind on certain issues, so these accounts are probably outlets for that. It's also gotta be incredibly frustrating when the media is bashing and accusing you of things that aren't true such as sabotaging Okafor's career. It's possible that he was working hard to ship him out of town, but for whatever reason he couldn't pass his physical and it had to be kept under wraps. The whole "freejah" movement really made him look bad, when we all know now that Okafor is complete garbage.
I think it draws parallels to the whole Luol Deng situation. There are always going to be people in their corners trying to use the media and spin the story to make the organization look bad when in reality nobody wants those guys on their team. I think I remember it reflecting badly on Magic Johnson, but I could be wrong.
Anyways, that was a good read and I'm curious to see how this plays out. I'd actually be surprised if he lost his job over this. The fallout between him and Embiid could be devastating.
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Post by George Gervin on May 30, 2018 19:05:48 GMT
I agree with Ian that looking past the childishness, the tweets are actually insightful. I find it interesting because being in such a high-profile position, he's not able to really speak his mind on certain issues, so these accounts are probably outlets for that. It's also gotta be incredibly frustrating when the media is bashing and accusing you of things that aren't true such as sabotaging Okafor's career. It's possible that he was working hard to ship him out of town, but for whatever reason he couldn't pass his physical and it had to be kept under wraps. The whole "freejah" movement really made him look bad, when we all know now that Okafor is complete garbage. I think it draws parallels to the whole Luol Deng situation. There are always going to be people in their corners trying to use the media and spin the story to make the organization look bad when in reality nobody wants those guys on their team. I think I remember it reflecting badly on Magic Johnson, but I could be wrong. Anyways, that was a good read and I'm curious to see how this plays out. I'd actually be surprised if he lost his job over this. The fallout between him and Embiid could be devastating. I think Embiid and Simmons have the hammer in this situation; if either one goes to ownership and issues an ultimatum that it’s me or Colangelo, BC will be gone ASAP. To me the biggest problem is less the shots at players and media but the medical details with Okafor; that kind of stuff can get people in hot water legally pretty quick if they aren’t the attending physician, so BC may have broken the law (think Adam Schaffer with JPP report about his hand injury and the files released on that).
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Post by Ian Noble on May 30, 2018 19:18:11 GMT
I agree with Ian that looking past the childishness, the tweets are actually insightful. I find it interesting because being in such a high-profile position, he's not able to really speak his mind on certain issues, so these accounts are probably outlets for that. It's also gotta be incredibly frustrating when the media is bashing and accusing you of things that aren't true such as sabotaging Okafor's career. It's possible that he was working hard to ship him out of town, but for whatever reason he couldn't pass his physical and it had to be kept under wraps. The whole "freejah" movement really made him look bad, when we all know now that Okafor is complete garbage. I think it draws parallels to the whole Luol Deng situation. There are always going to be people in their corners trying to use the media and spin the story to make the organization look bad when in reality nobody wants those guys on their team. I think I remember it reflecting badly on Magic Johnson, but I could be wrong. Anyways, that was a good read and I'm curious to see how this plays out. I'd actually be surprised if he lost his job over this. The fallout between him and Embiid could be devastating. I think Embiid and Simmons have the hammer in this situation; if either one goes to ownership and issues an ultimatum that it’s me or Colangelo, BC will be gone ASAP. To me the biggest problem is less the shots at players and media but the medical details with Okafor; that kind of stuff can get people in hot water legally pretty quick if they aren’t the attending physician, so BC may have broken the law (think Adam Schaffer with JPP report about his hand injury and the files released on that). Yeah the medical details he posted could be very serious. I saw on Reddit that Okafor's lawyering-up on that front.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on May 30, 2018 19:18:12 GMT
I agree with Ian that looking past the childishness, the tweets are actually insightful. I find it interesting because being in such a high-profile position, he's not able to really speak his mind on certain issues, so these accounts are probably outlets for that. It's also gotta be incredibly frustrating when the media is bashing and accusing you of things that aren't true such as sabotaging Okafor's career. It's possible that he was working hard to ship him out of town, but for whatever reason he couldn't pass his physical and it had to be kept under wraps. The whole "freejah" movement really made him look bad, when we all know now that Okafor is complete garbage. I think it draws parallels to the whole Luol Deng situation. There are always going to be people in their corners trying to use the media and spin the story to make the organization look bad when in reality nobody wants those guys on their team. I think I remember it reflecting badly on Magic Johnson, but I could be wrong. Anyways, that was a good read and I'm curious to see how this plays out. I'd actually be surprised if he lost his job over this. The fallout between him and Embiid could be devastating. I think Embiid and Simmons have the hammer in this situation; if either one goes to ownership and issues an ultimatum that it’s me or Colangelo, BC will be gone ASAP. To me the biggest problem is less the shots at players and media but the medical details with Okafor; that kind of stuff can get people in hot water legally pretty quick if they aren’t the attending physician, so BC may have broken the law (think Adam Schaffer with JPP report about his hand injury and the files released on that). If the players band together, which will probably happen, it will force management to agree with them, at least on the surface, and he'll be gone. But deep down, they have to know that he isn't necessarily wrong on these issues. As for the legalities, I have no idea. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I personally don't think he should lose his job, but management's hand might be forced if push comes to shove.
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Post by Chris Mullin on May 30, 2018 19:51:59 GMT
In other 76'er related news, it appears that Ben Simmons is now dating a Kardashian. This development could potentially be the most troubling news coming out of the Philadelphia camp at this point in time. Link
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Post by Ian Noble on May 30, 2018 20:20:34 GMT
In other 76'er related news, it appears that Ben Simmons is now dating a Kardashian. This development could potentially be the most troubling news coming out of the Philadelphia camp at this point in time. LinkI am seriously not happy about this development.
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Post by Jay Z on May 30, 2018 20:24:37 GMT
In other 76'er related news, it appears that Ben Simmons is now dating a Kardashian. This development could potentially be the most troubling news coming out of the Philadelphia camp at this point in time. LinkIan just can't catch a break... I just want to see the blow back Silver and the NBA faces if this is true a long with the Hinkie being pushed out and Bryan being put in. Far more embarrassing for a GM to put out information like that then to openly talk about tanking.
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Post by Alex English on May 30, 2018 22:22:55 GMT
In all seriousness, this is a great article by the Ringer. But is any of this actually more than speculation? At this point it really isn't more than that. Only the one account that never tweeted was confirmed as belonging to Colangelo. The Sixers have apparently launched an investigation though, so some kind of resolution should come of this. My question is does it even matter anymore if it's true or not? There is so much circumstantial evidence that even if it wasn't really him, a ton of players could still believe it anyway. If his reputation is damaged like that then how can he do his job properly? No player will sign with him if they believe this could even possibly be true.
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Post by George Gervin on May 30, 2018 22:41:25 GMT
In all seriousness, this is a great article by the Ringer. But is any of this actually more than speculation? At this point it really isn't more than that. Only the one account that never tweeted was confirmed as belonging to Colangelo. The Sixers have apparently launched an investigation though, so some kind of resolution should come of this. My question is does it even matter anymore if it's true or not? There is so much circumstantial evidence that even if it wasn't really him, a ton of players could still believe it anyway. If his reputation is damaged like that then how can he do his job properly? No player will sign with him if they believe this could even possibly be true. Agreed— reputation wise this is bad for the Sixers, and if I was a top tier FA considering them I’d probably stay away. Same with GMs looking to trade, as they may worry he’d leak something to the press through an account if he doesn’t get his way in a deal
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Post by George Gervin on May 31, 2018 18:12:18 GMT
Latest twist in this crazy story: some digging by Philly beat reporters indicate the phone number and email on 3 of 5 accounts belong to Colangelos wife...so now it’s a matter of what did BC know/not know about what his wife was doing if she in fact was the author of all these tweets. You couldn’t make this shit up if you tried
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Post by Ian Noble on May 31, 2018 19:49:20 GMT
Latest twist in this crazy story: some digging by Philly beat reporters indicate the phone number and email on 3 of 5 accounts belong to Colangelos wife...so now it’s a matter of what did BC know/not know about what his wife was doing if she in fact was the author of all these tweets. You couldn’t make this shit up if you tried Or pretending it was his wife could be the most shameless method of career survival ever seen.
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Post by George Gervin on May 31, 2018 20:42:54 GMT
Latest twist in this crazy story: some digging by Philly beat reporters indicate the phone number and email on 3 of 5 accounts belong to Colangelos wife...so now it’s a matter of what did BC know/not know about what his wife was doing if she in fact was the author of all these tweets. You couldn’t make this shit up if you tried Or pretending it was his wife could be the most shameless method of career survival ever seen. He’d lose his job and his wife if that’s the angle
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 1, 2018 10:17:48 GMT
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Jun 1, 2018 12:18:05 GMT
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Post by Alex English on Jun 2, 2018 0:49:25 GMT
After a few days to take this in, I firmly believe it was his wife using these accounts. Besides the fact that the number ending in 91 links back to her, it just makes way more sense. Have you guys seen a Bryan Colangelo press conference? He doesn't really seem like the reckless, over-emotional, flame war type of person. It's totally his bored housewife who feels the need to defend his honour lol. So if it is her, does Bryan Colangelo get fired because of his wife? I still think he has to go.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 2, 2018 1:06:58 GMT
Gets fired because he disclosed medical info to her that he isn't allowed to.
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 2, 2018 2:46:38 GMT
Gets fired because he disclosed medical info to her that he isn't allowed to. Agreed— disclosure of that non public medical info will be the reason he’s canned more than anything else.
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