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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 6, 2018 3:28:21 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 6, 2018 3:48:06 GMT
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jan 6, 2018 4:52:35 GMT
He's better than a Turd Sandwich, though.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 6, 2018 5:04:21 GMT
He's better than a Turd Sandwich, though. Eh. I'd probably eat a turd sandwich right now if doing so could guarantee an erasure of Trump's existence from our earth.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 6, 2018 11:07:29 GMT
The Establishment would attack Bernie Sanders just as much if he somehow managed to wriggle through the corruption and obstructions of democracy and put himself up for election, but they would do it in different ways.
How much of the Establishment media in the United States is slamming Trump for his attacks on human rights? The only place I've seen it is in response to the Republican tax bill, and that's only because it negatively impacts both short and long term economic growth in the United States - and they are doing that partly via the message of a concern for plunging millions into poverty, but given their other focuses I seriously doubt that's top priority.
Democrat neoliberalism is the gateway to Republican fascism, both need to be hugely balanced by a strong left wing that is currently completely unrepresented in American politics, except by a guy who we now know was deliberately cheated out of representing people.
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Post by Magic Johnson on Jan 6, 2018 12:52:34 GMT
speaking of the moron a new book was released out today on him, should be fun.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 6, 2018 17:42:41 GMT
The Establishment would attack Bernie Sanders just as much if he somehow managed to wriggle through the corruption and obstructions of democracy and put himself up for election, but they would do it in different ways. How much of the Establishment media in the United States is slamming Trump for his attacks on human rights? The only place I've seen it is in response to the Republican tax bill, and that's only because it negatively impacts both short and long term economic growth in the United States - and they are doing that partly via the message of a concern for plunging millions into poverty, but given their other focuses I seriously doubt that's top priority. Democrat neoliberalism is the gateway to Republican fascism, both need to be hugely balanced by a strong left wing that is currently completely unrepresented in American politics, except by a guy who we now know was deliberately cheated out of representing people. If Bernie runs next election he'll win. He gets standing ovations from Trump supporters in WV and has like a 90% national approval rating which shits on just about any other democrat or republican.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 6, 2018 17:51:43 GMT
The Establishment would attack Bernie Sanders just as much if he somehow managed to wriggle through the corruption and obstructions of democracy and put himself up for election, but they would do it in different ways. How much of the Establishment media in the United States is slamming Trump for his attacks on human rights? The only place I've seen it is in response to the Republican tax bill, and that's only because it negatively impacts both short and long term economic growth in the United States - and they are doing that partly via the message of a concern for plunging millions into poverty, but given their other focuses I seriously doubt that's top priority. Democrat neoliberalism is the gateway to Republican fascism, both need to be hugely balanced by a strong left wing that is currently completely unrepresented in American politics, except by a guy who we now know was deliberately cheated out of representing people. If Bernie runs next election he'll win. He gets standing ovations from Trump supporters in WV and has like a 90% national approval rating which shits on just about any other democrat or republican. I'm sorry but there's no chance a self described socialist wins the presidency, not to mention one who will be 80 fucking years old by 2020. We don't need a 2nd consecutive senile president. The baby boomers fucked up enough, next generation please.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 6, 2018 17:54:45 GMT
Brian Scalabrine a touch of democratic socialism is exactly what the US needs/has never had though!
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jan 6, 2018 18:08:20 GMT
Bernie is too old, he won't win. There would be too many questions about his health. We need a young, hip liberal who's able to unite the party.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 6, 2018 22:37:47 GMT
If Bernie runs next election he'll win. He gets standing ovations from Trump supporters in WV and has like a 90% national approval rating which shits on just about any other democrat or republican. I'm sorry but there's no chance a self described socialist wins the presidency, not to mention one who will be 80 fucking years old by 2020. We don't need a 2nd consecutive senile president. The baby boomers fucked up enough, next generation please. The LAST thing this country needs is another bullshit corporate democrat like Kamala Harris, Trever Booker, Kirsten Gillibrand. Those people are Hillary lite, and they will lose to the republicans again because they suck and they don't have our best interests at heart. We need an actual progressive. You'll see it, we're running people all over the country for congress with no corporate money using individual donations against corporate democrats and republicans alike. We need to kick corporate money out of our government or we are going to become a full fledged oligarchy like Russia. This will be our last chance to do so. Check out groups such as Justice Democrats, Our Revolution, WolfPac. If anyone has any conservative groups that are also against corporate money in politics feel free to post those as well. This is about money and how it poisons our government, not about political party or ideology. Because it doesn't matter if the president doesn't have corporate money, everyone has to buy in. Bernie Sanders runs, he wins. 90% approval rating, that crosses party lines. That is an obnoxious level of approval. The last social democrat we had was FDR and the people loved him so much that they elected him 4 times. The cool thing about Bernie is that his vice president won't be Satan incarnate, and he's not an authoritarian child so I feel as if he felt his mental aptitude slip he would just go yo dawg I'm out. Hell Orin Hatch is 84 and the only reason he's not running again is because he accidentally retweeted an article that said he was a power hungry idiot. Age is irrelevant when it comes to this decision. Lets get one of the guys who actually has our best interests in mind. Others who might run if Bernie decides not to (it's a bit of time away anyways): Nina Turner, Ro Khanna, Keith Ellison, Raúl Grijalva, and although I don't really think she's that great Elizabeth Warren (she's kinda annoying and I don't know why). Don't accept the bullshit corporate narrative that we need middle of the road blue dog democrats because they lose time and time again because they stand for nothing. It's why democrats lost 800 seats across the US while Obama was president.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 7, 2018 2:15:17 GMT
Bernie had his chance last election. He's way too old now. Both him and Biden should be in retirement homes.
Frankly there should be an age limit on elected office. Anyone over 75 is at too big a risk of becoming senile.
He should choose a successor and enthusiastically support him/her, otherwise Bernie's movement is at risk of becoming irrelevant in a few years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 2:36:09 GMT
Tulsi
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 7, 2018 3:42:13 GMT
Brian Scalabrine a touch of democratic socialism is exactly what the US needs/has never had though! Pretty sure we had it for 12 years when we saved your panzie asses from ze Germans
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 7, 2018 9:02:51 GMT
Brian Scalabrine a touch of democratic socialism is exactly what the US needs/has never had though! Pretty sure we had it for 12 years when we saved your panzie asses from ze Germans You mean after we'd kicked Nazi ass from 1939 to 1941? when you had no choice but to get your pansy ass into gear after Pearl Harbour? Yeah it was about damn time two years after the war began, and you still took another 3 years to help us win it, and that only happened after the Soviets wore them down.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 7, 2018 15:46:43 GMT
Pretty sure we had it for 12 years when we saved your panzie asses from ze Germans You mean after we'd kicked Nazi ass from 1939 to 1941? when you had no choice but to get your pansy ass into gear after Pearl Harbour? Yeah it was about damn time two years after the war began, and you still took another 3 years to help us win it, and that only happened after the Soviets wore them down. Just remember on 12/8/2007 Ricky Hatton was destroyed by America.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 7, 2018 17:10:53 GMT
You mean after we'd kicked Nazi ass from 1939 to 1941? when you had no choice but to get your pansy ass into gear after Pearl Harbour? Yeah it was about damn time two years after the war began, and you still took another 3 years to help us win it, and that only happened after the Soviets wore them down. Just remember on 12/8/2007 Ricky Hatton was destroyed by America. Funny story - I was working in a Blockbuster Video in Canterbury, Kent back in 2006 when Ricky Hatton and Daniel Day Lewis walked in and rented some movies together.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 8, 2018 4:25:13 GMT
Tulsi She's fine actually.
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