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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 18, 2018 12:41:46 GMT
Eric Bledsoe last two games: 9 Points 4-12 FG 4 assists 5 TOs 12 points 5-13 FG 4 assits 1 TO -3 +/- And if you've been watching his defense has been horrendous, he doesn't even try half the time. Bonus Jabari Parker: 2 points 1-5 FG 1 assist 4 rebounds -14 +/- 0 points 0-2 FG 0 assist 2 rebounds -15 +/- His defense has been as bad if not worse than Bledsoe's Look at that Improvement! Definitely hasn't been a good two games, let's see what happens back at home. Also, coaching.
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Post by Billy King on Apr 18, 2018 12:59:59 GMT
Eric Bledsoe last two games: 9 Points 4-12 FG 4 assists 5 TOs 12 points 5-13 FG 4 assits 1 TO -3 +/- And if you've been watching his defense has been horrendous, he doesn't even try half the time. Bonus Jabari Parker: 2 points 1-5 FG 1 assist 4 rebounds -14 +/- 0 points 0-2 FG 0 assist 2 rebounds -15 +/- His defense has been as bad if not worse than Bledsoe's It's like the whole first page is being validated before our eyes!
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 18, 2018 14:09:32 GMT
IDK man you see Bledsoe's interview about Rozier?
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Apr 18, 2018 14:18:44 GMT
Drew Bledsoe?
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 18, 2018 17:33:05 GMT
Eric Bledsoe last two games: 9 Points 4-12 FG 4 assists 5 TOs 12 points 5-13 FG 4 assits 1 TO -3 +/- And if you've been watching his defense has been horrendous, he doesn't even try half the time. Bonus Jabari Parker: 2 points 1-5 FG 1 assist 4 rebounds -14 +/- 0 points 0-2 FG 0 assist 2 rebounds -15 +/- His defense has been as bad if not worse than Bledsoe's I honestly feel like these two guys are caving under the pressure. It should be noted that this is like the 3rd game that Middleton-Brogdon-Jabari-Giannis have played together. Personally, I thought the Bucks would take this series in 6. They are playing like absolute shit and it is baffling me, they've been playing this way since the week or so after Kidd was fired, and under Kidd as well. Reminds me of the Cavs LeBron v 1.0
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 18, 2018 20:11:32 GMT
It should be noted that this is like the 3rd game that Middleton-Brogdon-Jabari-Giannis have played together. This
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 19, 2018 6:59:30 GMT
After the first two playoff games for each team, I humbly introduce your 2018 playoffs lineup of suck! PG: Damian Lillard ( Ghazny Dimalen ). 17.5 ppg, 13/41 shooting, 7 turnovers NO MORE LAYUPS... FOR ME.SG: Drew Bledsoe ( Walt Frazier ) 10.5 ppg, 9/25 shooting, 6 turnovers WHO???SF: Bradley Beal ( Glenn Robinson ) 11/28 shooting, -44 +/- TAKE ME OUT COACH. NO SERIOUSLY, I AM -44PF: Jabari Parker ( Ian Noble ) 1.0 ppg, 1/7 shooting, -29 +/- in just 24 minutes! A MYSTERY WRAPPED IN AN ENIGMA WRAPPED IN A BAD BASKETBALL PLAYERC: Karl-Anthony Towns ( Jeremiah Hill ) 6.5 ppg, 5/18 shooting, -22 +/- ouch NOT BUILT FOR PHYSICAL BASKETBALLAnd the funny thing is, these are all "offensive" players who suck on defense too!
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 19, 2018 8:18:51 GMT
I'm most surprised that KAT is performing so badly! It's not like Houston have stellar defensive bigs particularly. Jabari has definitely played like poop! Minutes Per Game: Lillard - 41 Bledsoe - 33.5 Beal - 33 Jabari - 12.5 KAT - 40 In Jabari's defence: I do think that there's something to be said for receiving over 30 minutes per game. A player's production disproportionately increases when their minutes also increase, it's not a linear increase in statistical performance. The flip-side to that is to say that maybe Jabari doesn't deserve the minutes, but on the mere 6 occasions he received more than 30 minutes of playing time this season he produced very close to his pre-injury numbers (17ppg, 6rpg, 3apg on 37%3PT and 55%TS). Also as a D5-GM-homer I do harbour the conspiracy theory that the Bucks are tanking Jabari's value so they don't have to match a big RFA offer sheet this off season But it's more likely the Bucks are in bad shape, Jabari's recovering from injury etc. Whatever's going on with Jabari in Milwaukee I hope they fix it (after the Celtics sweep them ofc ) before his +/- becomes so bad that a black-hole opens at center-court, swallowing all of Milwaukee with it.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 19, 2018 9:04:41 GMT
I'm most surprised that KAT is performing so badly! It's not like Houston have stellar defensive bigs particularly. Jabari has definitely played like poop! Minutes Per Game: Lillard - 41 Bledsoe - 33.5 Beal - 33 Jabari - 12.5 KAT - 40 In Jabari's defence: I do think that there's something to be said for receiving over 30 minutes per game. A player's production disproportionately increases when their minutes also increase, it's not a linear increase in statistical performance. The flip-side to that is to say that maybe Jabari doesn't deserve the minutes, but on the mere 6 occasions he received more than 30 minutes of playing time this season he produced very close to his pre-injury numbers (17ppg, 6rpg, 3apg on 37%3PT and 55%TS). Also as a D5-GM-homer I do harbour the conspiracy theory that the Bucks are tanking Jabari's value so they don't have to match a big RFA offer sheet this off season But it's more likely the Bucks are in bad shape, Jabari's recovering from injury etc. Whatever's going on with Jabari in Milwaukee I hope they fix it (after the Celtics sweep them ofc ) before his +/- becomes so bad that a black-hole opens at center-court, swallowing all of Milwaukee with it. KAT is interesting to me as well. I think me and you talked about this recently, but I am of the opinion that KAT is going to get "passed by" in a rapidly changing NBA. He will always be a decent player, but he isn't going to be a superstar with his level of athleticism and defense. It won't be as bad as Jahlil Okafor, but he definitely is never going to the on the Anthony Davis / Joel Embiid level
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Post by Ghazny Dimalen on Apr 20, 2018 0:15:34 GMT
After the first two playoff games for each team, I humbly introduce your 2018 playoffs lineup of suck! PG: Damian Lillard ( Ghazny Dimalen ). 17.5 ppg, 13/41 shooting, 7 turnovers NO MORE LAYUPS... FOR ME.SG: Drew Bledsoe ( Walt Frazier ) 10.5 ppg, 9/25 shooting, 6 turnovers WHO???SF: Bradley Beal ( Glenn Robinson ) 11/28 shooting, -44 +/- TAKE ME OUT COACH. NO SERIOUSLY, I AM -44PF: Jabari Parker ( Ian Noble ) 1.0 ppg, 1/7 shooting, -29 +/- in just 24 minutes! A MYSTERY WRAPPED IN AN ENIGMA WRAPPED IN A BAD BASKETBALL PLAYERC: Karl-Anthony Towns ( Jeremiah Hill ) 6.5 ppg, 5/18 shooting, -22 +/- ouch NOT BUILT FOR PHYSICAL BASKETBALLAnd the funny thing is, these are all "offensive" players who suck on defense too! BOOOOOOO!!!!
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 20, 2018 0:17:40 GMT
I maintain that Towns is playing with garbage players around him to include his coach.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 20, 2018 7:50:42 GMT
You guys are crazy if you don't think Kat is a superstar. He's already the best offensive big in the NBA and he's not close to his prime. Wolves are just a complete mess and Wiggins is awful
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 20, 2018 8:06:34 GMT
You can't keep blaming Wiggins & Thibs for KAT's struggles. That narrative is becoming a bit overplayed. At some point you need to take responsibility. If he is a superstar then he needs to play like one. He has a pretty damn good supporting cast. If you disagree then go put a stockwatch for Jimmy Butler to be an 80. Or for Jeff Teague to be a 75.
Averaging 6.5 ppg is simply unacceptable for someone of his supposed stature. And he is undeniably a liability on defense, and has a legitimate claim to perhaps the title of worst defender in the league. If you are a Wolves fan then I think you really need to be concerned that the guy who is your cornerstone might be becoming a dinosaur at age 22.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 20, 2018 8:57:40 GMT
Kat averaged 21.3 ppg and 12.3 rpg on 64.6% TS. That's absolutely insane. How are you gonna take a 3 game sample over an 82 game sample? Not to mention he was almost as unbelievably good the year before as well.
You're overreacting
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 20, 2018 8:58:33 GMT
Also Booker is a way worse defender than Kat. Same with Wiggins. He's not good but he's not even close to the worst defender in the NBA.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 20, 2018 10:09:08 GMT
I also think KAT will be fine, but this picture is too funny not to post:
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 20, 2018 14:13:29 GMT
You can't keep blaming Wiggins & Thibs for KAT's struggles. That narrative is becoming a bit overplayed. At some point you need to take responsibility. If he is a superstar then he needs to play like one. He has a pretty damn good supporting cast. If you disagree then go put a stockwatch for Jimmy Butler to be an 80. Or for Jeff Teague to be a 75. Averaging 6.5 ppg is simply unacceptable for someone of his supposed stature. And he is undeniably a liability on defense, and has a legitimate claim to perhaps the title of worst defender in the league. If you are a Wolves fan then I think you really need to be concerned that the guy who is your cornerstone might be becoming a dinosaur at age 22. Yes I can. Thibs sucking is not some tired narrative, I only just broke it down last week.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 20, 2018 14:15:29 GMT
You can't keep blaming Wiggins & Thibs for KAT's struggles. That narrative is becoming a bit overplayed. At some point you need to take responsibility. If he is a superstar then he needs to play like one. He has a pretty damn good supporting cast. If you disagree then go put a stockwatch for Jimmy Butler to be an 80. Or for Jeff Teague to be a 75. Averaging 6.5 ppg is simply unacceptable for someone of his supposed stature. And he is undeniably a liability on defense, and has a legitimate claim to perhaps the title of worst defender in the league. If you are a Wolves fan then I think you really need to be concerned that the guy who is your cornerstone might be becoming a dinosaur at age 22. Jimmy Butler has been shit on defense this year too in case you haven't noticed. In fact literally every player on the Wolves has been shit on defense. Towns remains the best defender on the team and will get better once Thibs is out of town.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 20, 2018 19:53:03 GMT
It is quite weird how so many star players are sucking these playoffs.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 21, 2018 10:45:57 GMT
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Apr 21, 2018 11:08:17 GMT
KP will turnout better than KAT. It is getting pretty obvious, unless my prediction that injury will make KP one of the biggest what-ifs in the history of the league become reality
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 21, 2018 12:16:53 GMT
KP will turnout better than KAT. It is getting pretty obvious, unless my prediction that injury will make KP one of the biggest what-ifs in the history of the league become reality KP is not even close to as efficient as KAT. He doesn't pass or rebound as well either. I think it's pretty obvious KAT is going to be better than KP. And I like KP.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 21, 2018 20:37:59 GMT
Simmons is on for the Quadruple Double if he gets 3 more TOVs
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 21, 2018 20:47:30 GMT
I also think KAT will be fine, but this picture is too funny not to post: Btw this is funny as shit.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 21, 2018 20:48:28 GMT
KP will turnout better than KAT. It is getting pretty obvious, unless my prediction that injury will make KP one of the biggest what-ifs in the history of the league become reality Lol if you really thought that you wouldn't have traded him.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Apr 22, 2018 3:45:05 GMT
KP will turnout better than KAT. It is getting pretty obvious, unless my prediction that injury will make KP one of the biggest what-ifs in the history of the league become reality Lol if you really thought that you wouldn't have traded him. Watch the playoffs. Watch.. Watch..
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 24, 2018 7:14:56 GMT
Carmelo Anthony 5/18
Shooting 23% 3p and 37% fg in the playoffs
#Washed
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 28, 2018 12:18:52 GMT
Paul George 2/16 Westbrook 18/43 5 TOs Carmelo Anthony -19
Complete failure
Edit: Westbrook 49% TS in the playoffs Carmelo 45% TS in the playoffs #Overrated
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 28, 2018 23:08:30 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 29, 2018 8:14:04 GMT
This is similar to what I saw when Shaq finally started declining. You get a person who has never been challenged by anyone else their entire life, for whom everything has come easy, and suddenly the one thing they've been relying on (their physicality) inevitably declines for the first time in their life and they're forced to deal with adversity for the first time in their lives in their mid-30s and look like a spoiled child whilst they're doing it.
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