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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 23, 2017 11:09:34 GMT
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Post by Jared Montini on Nov 23, 2017 13:50:00 GMT
Dion waiters killed it last night
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 12:59:57 GMT
God I hate Bryan colangelo so much he's a piece of shit
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 27, 2017 13:23:44 GMT
God I hate Bryan colangelo so much he's a piece of shit Why what's happened to Fultz now? Looks like there's still 3 weeks til he's back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2017 13:24:21 GMT
God I hate Bryan colangelo so much he's a piece of shit Why what's happened to Fultz now? Looks like there's still 3 weeks til he's back. I hate what he is doing to okafor. Colangelo is an idiot and he has no honor.
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 27, 2017 14:39:50 GMT
Why what's happened to Fultz now? Looks like there's still 3 weeks til he's back. I hate what he is doing to okafor. Colangelo is an idiot and he has no honor. I certainly think the way Colangelo was shoe-horned into Hinkie's job was a pretty classless act by an organization that's now profiting from Hinkie's hard work.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Nov 29, 2017 5:38:56 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 30, 2017 13:23:58 GMT
#betterThanGiannis
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 2, 2017 9:36:39 GMT
Jeremiah Hill WTF are you a rookie-drafting-Jedi or something?! 2015 - Karl Anthony Towns 2016 - Nikola Jokic 2017 - Donovan Mitchell
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 13:46:29 GMT
That feel when I drafted the only lotto pick so far that doesn't suck.
Inb4 Donovan Mitchell hype and his piss poor efficiency
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 14:17:15 GMT
Looks like I wasn't actually inb4 the mitchell hype
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Post by Jared Montini on Dec 3, 2017 14:58:53 GMT
Why draft in the lottery when you can get steals In the 2nd? #Kuzma
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 3, 2017 15:20:51 GMT
Inb4 Donovan Mitchell hype and his piss poor efficiency Usage Rate is much more important for a rookie's career than efficiency imho Sure Donovan's not very efficient, but neither was Kobe Bryant throughout his entire career
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 15:31:02 GMT
Inb4 Donovan Mitchell hype and his piss poor efficiency Usage Rate is much more important for a rookie's career than efficiency imho Sure Donovan's not very efficient, but neither was Kobe Bryant throughout his entire career yeah mcw sportin' that career 24% usage rate and 40% fg I'm not saying mitchell isn't gonna be decent but he's been meh at best, he has good games against super scrub guards
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 3, 2017 17:12:25 GMT
Usage Rate is much more important for a rookie's career than efficiency imho Sure Donovan's not very efficient, but neither was Kobe Bryant throughout his entire career yeah mcw sportin' that career 24% usage rate and 40% fg I'm not saying mitchell isn't gonna be decent but he's been meh at best, he has good games against super scrub guards Have you actually watched him Billy? My friend went to HS with Mitchell so I've actually watched him a lot. He has really nice moves for a rook, excellent handles, a good looking shot and he is athletic as hell. I've seen him play really good defense for stretches too. You're wrong about this kid, he's gonna be a stud. Complete package already and he's just 21
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Post by Walt Frazier on Dec 4, 2017 2:54:59 GMT
I've failed him by not calling it out yet, but guy is doing some things!
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 4, 2017 19:36:14 GMT
Jerami Grant
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 5, 2017 3:00:52 GMT
Usage Rate is much more important for a rookie's career than efficiency imho Sure Donovan's not very efficient, but neither was Kobe Bryant throughout his entire career yeah mcw sportin' that career 24% usage rate and 40% fg I'm not saying mitchell isn't gonna be decent but he's been meh at best, he has good games against super scrub guards I'm really excited about Mitchell, his efficiency has been worrying for me but I think he's got more offensive potential than I think say Marcus Smart does at the moment. I'm most excited about his ability to move the ball and pass as that wasn't something he was particularly billed as.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 5, 2017 7:35:05 GMT
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 5, 2017 7:36:31 GMT
Also, Devin Booker
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 5, 2017 19:48:48 GMT
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 5, 2017 20:39:32 GMT
I've watched this 8 times now and Embiid definitely traveled there at the end. He picked up his pivot foot and jumped off his other foot. Granted, he was already past Len at that point, but I don't think he could have dunked it without traveling.
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Post by Alex English on Dec 5, 2017 23:29:38 GMT
I've watched this 8 times now and Embiid definitely traveled there at the end. He picked up his pivot foot and jumped off his other foot. Granted, he was already past Len at that point, but I don't think he could have dunked it without traveling. Fun fact: it's not a travel when you pick up your pivot foot, it's only a travel when you put your pivot foot back down. If you keep the foot in the air, then it's all good. So Embiid didn't actually travel.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 6, 2017 6:06:30 GMT
I've watched this 8 times now and Embiid definitely traveled there at the end. He picked up his pivot foot and jumped off his other foot. Granted, he was already past Len at that point, but I don't think he could have dunked it without traveling. Fun fact: it's not a travel when you pick up your pivot foot, it's only a travel when you put your pivot foot back down. If you keep the foot in the air, then it's all good. So Embiid didn't actually travel. Yes but you can't pick up your foot and jump off the other. Or am I delusional? I've always been told you have to jump off your planted foot or both feet at the same time. Picking up your planted foot and then jumping off your other foot gives you an extra step, basically switching pivot feet midplay.
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Post by Alex English on Dec 6, 2017 23:30:54 GMT
Yes but you can't pick up your foot and jump off the other. Or am I delusional? I've always been told you have to jump off your planted foot or both feet at the same time. Picking up your planted foot and then jumping off your other foot gives you an extra step, basically switching pivot feet midplay. I think this is like one of those Berenstain bears things (everyone think it's Berenst ein bears). Everyone thinks the rule is that you can't pick up your pivot foot, until they learn the rule isn't actually worded that way, and it's totally weird. You can lift your pivot so long as you don't put it back on the ground before passing or shooting. It's also like a layup, which is '1-2-up' where '1' is your pivot foot. So isn't it a layup a travel then? It is if the rule is simply that you can't lift your pivot foot. I guess it sort of gives you an extra step, but that's the way the rule really is.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2017 13:56:21 GMT
Yes but you can't pick up your foot and jump off the other. Or am I delusional? I've always been told you have to jump off your planted foot or both feet at the same time. Picking up your planted foot and then jumping off your other foot gives you an extra step, basically switching pivot feet midplay. I think this is like one of those Berenstain bears things (everyone think it's Berenst ein bears). Everyone thinks the rule is that you can't pick up your pivot foot, until they learn the rule isn't actually worded that way, and it's totally weird. You can lift your pivot so long as you don't put it back on the ground before passing or shooting. It's also like a layup, which is '1-2-up' where '1' is your pivot foot. So isn't it a layup a travel then? It is if the rule is simply that you can't lift your pivot foot. I guess it sort of gives you an extra step, but that's the way the rule really is. This. If the rule was the way everyone thinks it is a lot of jump shots would end up technically being travels
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 7, 2017 18:21:30 GMT
Yes but you can't pick up your foot and jump off the other. Or am I delusional? I've always been told you have to jump off your planted foot or both feet at the same time. Picking up your planted foot and then jumping off your other foot gives you an extra step, basically switching pivot feet midplay. I think this is like one of those Berenstain bears things (everyone think it's Berenst ein bears). Everyone thinks the rule is that you can't pick up your pivot foot, until they learn the rule isn't actually worded that way, and it's totally weird. You can lift your pivot so long as you don't put it back on the ground before passing or shooting. It's also like a layup, which is '1-2-up' where '1' is your pivot foot. So isn't it a layup a travel then? It is if the rule is simply that you can't lift your pivot foot. I guess it sort of gives you an extra step, but that's the way the rule really is. I am still not convinced I am wrong here. I've never researched the rules but I've played too long and seen this too much to accept this at face value. Here is and except I found that I believe supports my point that you can't lift your pivot foot and then jump off the other foot: To pass or shoot for a field goal, the player may jump off a pivot foot, but neither foot may be returned to the floor before the ball is released from the hand(s).
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Dec 7, 2017 18:31:08 GMT
Yes but you can't pick up your foot and jump off the other. Or am I delusional? I've always been told you have to jump off your planted foot or both feet at the same time. Picking up your planted foot and then jumping off your other foot gives you an extra step, basically switching pivot feet midplay. I think this is like one of those Berenstain bears things (everyone think it's Berenst ein bears). Everyone thinks the rule is that you can't pick up your pivot foot, until they learn the rule isn't actually worded that way, and it's totally weird. You can lift your pivot so long as you don't put it back on the ground before passing or shooting. It's also like a layup, which is '1-2-up' where '1' is your pivot foot. So isn't it a layup a travel then? It is if the rule is simply that you can't lift your pivot foot. I guess it sort of gives you an extra step, but that's the way the rule really is. Also a layup is different because you haven't established a pivot foot, it's an irrelevant comparison.
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Post by Alex English on Dec 8, 2017 0:16:00 GMT
Also a layup is different because you haven't established a pivot foot, it's an irrelevant comparison. How do you not establish a pivot foot? As soon as you stop dribbling the first foot that touches the ground is automatically your pivot foot. That first step would be the '1' in the '1-2-up'. I'm not sure where that other quote is from, but here is the NBA's entire section on traveling: I guess a layup is sort of different, as part b. describes the "two steps upon completion of a dribble". If you read the thing though, you'll see what I mean. I've emphasized the parts that show how you can lift your pivot foot in order to shoot or pass. Part d. straight up says you can raise your pivot foot but then you must pass or shoot before it comes back down, and other parts imply the same thing. The only time raising your pivot foot is a travel is when starting a dribble, as described in part c. Embiid dunked though, so raising is pivot foot is legal so long is it doesn't come back down. I dunno, we've argued enough about traveling for me. If the NBA rule book isn't enough, then I don't have any other points to make
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Post by Ian Noble on Dec 9, 2017 14:31:11 GMT
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