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Post by Jared Montini on Jun 18, 2017 17:53:02 GMT
yeah I may be jumping the gun but he just looks so good. He has defensive potential and can easily average 25-6-6 with 2 steals. I just don't see anyone in this draft to even be close. Unless Ball turns into a Jason Kidd and wins LA a ring or if DSJ turns into what I think he can be Fultz defensive potential and handle is what makes him head and shoulders above Ball imo. I think you might be a little too high on Fultz, and I would consider entertaining trades for him as I have here in D5. Depending on what Philly ends up packaging to get him, I could see myself accepting a similar offer. Ball has a quicker catch and release, but his handle and shot creation are complete trash. I like dsj as a project player with a really high ceiling. This entire year was his first back from tearing his ACL. I am very excited to see what he is gonna look like year 2, especially with all the extra spacing in the NBA. I did put offers out in 720 but I don't have faith in my drafting ability as I've struck out in other drafts. the best offer I've really had was 15 mudiay and Murray
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 18, 2017 22:17:35 GMT
Embiid projects as a potential all timer big man, Fultz projects as a pretty good guard. I don't think there is a real life GM in the league outside of the playoffs that wouldn't trade basically their starting five for him outside of Minnesota or New Orleans.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 22:22:10 GMT
Embiid projects as a potential all timer big man, Fultz projects as a pretty good guard. I don't think there is a real life GM in the league outside of the playoffs that wouldn't trade basically their starting five for him outside of Minnesota or New Orleans. "pretty good guard" top kek young son
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Post by James Kay on Jun 18, 2017 22:40:16 GMT
Embiid projects as a potential all timer big man, Fultz projects as a pretty good guard. I don't think there is a real life GM in the league outside of the playoffs that wouldn't trade basically their starting five for him outside of Minnesota or New Orleans. "pretty good guard" top kek young son can we ban billy's smug low substance shitty internet meme speak posts?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 22:52:58 GMT
"pretty good guard" top kek young son can we ban billy's smug low substance shitty internet meme speak posts? What else can I say when someone calls the unanimous #1 pick's prospect chances as "a pretty good guard". It's not worth much more of a response, I've laid out what I think about Fultz in previous posts.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 0:54:05 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 19, 2017 2:36:50 GMT
I think it's funny how people shit on Ball for having good teammates (He made them that way) but De'Arron Fox is just fine despite going to a perennially stacked team and having a reliable 2nd ball handler on his team in Monk.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 19, 2017 2:47:12 GMT
Embiid projects as a potential all timer big man, Fultz projects as a pretty good guard. I don't think there is a real life GM in the league outside of the playoffs that wouldn't trade basically their starting five for him outside of Minnesota or New Orleans. "pretty good guard" top kek young son He keeps getting comps to Harden and Wade but Harden and Wade put up their stats on good teams, with other competition for the ball. The per40 stats aren't available for Harden but Dwayne Wade averaged 1.9 more FT attempts on a per minute basis, I find it hard to believe if he had been the only player like Fultz was he would have blown Fultz away even more than he already did. Fultz has somehow become even more overrated than Ben Simmons was last year. At least last year Simmons was at least actually the best prospect. Fultz might not even be a better player than DSJ who's going in the 5-10 spots. This draft is full of 2nd and 3rd options at the top and I like Fultz, but he's not some otherworldly can't miss talent by any stretch and the people billing him as such are going to be disappointed. I'm not the only one that agrees with it, Danny Ainge also agrees considering he just traded Fultz for random draft picks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 2:50:13 GMT
"pretty good guard" top kek young son He keeps getting comps to Harden and Wade but Harden and Wade put up their stats on good teams, with other competition for the ball. The per40 stats aren't available for Harden but Dwayne Wade averaged 1.9 more FT attempts on a per minute basis, I find it hard to believe if he had been the only player like Fultz was he would have blown Fultz away even more than he already did. Fultz has somehow become even more overrated than Ben Simmons was last year. At least last year Simmons was at least actually the best prospect. Fultz might not even be a better player than DSJ who's going in the 5-10 spots. This draft is full of 2nd and 3rd options at the top and I like Fultz, but he's not some otherworldly can't miss talent by any stretch and the people billing him as such are going to be disappointed. I'm not the only one that agrees with it, Danny Ainge also agrees considering he just traded Fultz for random draft picks. Didn't you think Bender was the best prospect last year, not Simmons?
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 19, 2017 2:55:22 GMT
He keeps getting comps to Harden and Wade but Harden and Wade put up their stats on good teams, with other competition for the ball. The per40 stats aren't available for Harden but Dwayne Wade averaged 1.9 more FT attempts on a per minute basis, I find it hard to believe if he had been the only player like Fultz was he would have blown Fultz away even more than he already did. Fultz has somehow become even more overrated than Ben Simmons was last year. At least last year Simmons was at least actually the best prospect. Fultz might not even be a better player than DSJ who's going in the 5-10 spots. This draft is full of 2nd and 3rd options at the top and I like Fultz, but he's not some otherworldly can't miss talent by any stretch and the people billing him as such are going to be disappointed. I'm not the only one that agrees with it, Danny Ainge also agrees considering he just traded Fultz for random draft picks. Didn't you think Bender was the best prospect last year, not Simmons? Didn't you draft Denzel Valentine?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 2:56:34 GMT
Didn't you think Bender was the best prospect last year, not Simmons? Didn't you draft Denzel Valentine? It wasn't a pot-shot. You just said Simmons was clearly the best prospect in the class, but he didn't play a fucking game lol. So how did your opinion on him change?
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 19, 2017 3:04:04 GMT
Didn't you draft Denzel Valentine? It wasn't a pot-shot. You just said Simmons was clearly the best prospect in the class, but he didn't play a fucking game lol. So how did your opinion on him change? If I remember correctly I posted that before the lottery and had a lottery pick, if I ended up top 3 I don't need Bender because I've got Jokic and Towns. This was also when I was thinking that Simmons could figure it out and play the SF spot which honestly probably isn't gonna happen for either Simmons or Ingram.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 19, 2017 10:35:47 GMT
Nobody wants to talk about the 2017 prospect that will turn into the best player of this draft?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 10:43:35 GMT
Nobody wants to talk about the 2017 prospect that will turn into the best player of this draft? You always post this cryptic shit but never offer any analysis of your own. You said a center was gonna be the best prospect last year too, but still haven't said shit about it. Why even post
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 19, 2017 13:51:58 GMT
Nobody wants to talk about the 2017 prospect that will turn into the best player of this draft? You always post this cryptic shit but never offer any analysis of your own. You said a center was gonna be the best prospect last year too, but still haven't said shit about it. Why even post I will double down.... The best player in the 2016 draft is a center...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 13:53:43 GMT
You always post this cryptic shit but never offer any analysis of your own. You said a center was gonna be the best prospect last year too, but still haven't said shit about it. Why even post I will double down.... The best player in the 2016 draft is a center... LOL Can you just not spell their name?
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 19, 2017 13:55:10 GMT
You always post this cryptic shit but never offer any analysis of your own. You said a center was gonna be the best prospect last year too, but still haven't said shit about it. Why even post I will double down.... The best player in the 2016 draft is a center... There are more than one Centers in the draft though
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 19, 2017 13:58:02 GMT
It is quite laughable now that the iso-greats are being puke by a lot of people... Jayson Tatum is becoming more of an underrated than an overrated as the days passed by... 16.8 points, 7.3 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.3 steals, 1.1 blocks, 45.1% FG and 34.2% 3FG...
No need to go very deep into the numbers... That alone entails something worth noting.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 19, 2017 13:59:24 GMT
I will double down.... The best player in the 2016 draft is a center... There are more than one Centers in the draft though Wait for another year or two and you will be enlightened...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 13:59:32 GMT
I will double down.... The best player in the 2016 draft is a center... There are more than one Centers in the draft though I wouldnt be surprised if the player he is referring to is on my roster currently.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 14:22:30 GMT
There are more than one Centers in the draft though Wait for another year or two and you will be enlightened... The only center with best-in-class ceiling from last draft is Papagiannis. And don't get me wrong, he's got a shot to be really good, but I doubt he ends up being the best player.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 19, 2017 14:23:44 GMT
Wait for another year or two and you will be enlightened... The only center with best-in-class ceiling from last draft is Papagiannis. And don't get me wrong, he's got a shot to be really good, but I doubt he ends up being the best player. Just to be clear, I am talking about a modern center here...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 14:26:20 GMT
The only center with best-in-class ceiling from last draft is Papagiannis. And don't get me wrong, he's got a shot to be really good, but I doubt he ends up being the best player. Just to be clear, I am talking about a modern center here... Your cryptic words so you can not be proven wrong are annoying. Why don't you just say who you think will be good?
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 19, 2017 14:29:50 GMT
I heard somewhere that one of the prospects in the 2017 draft was a 7'0 foot guy who has a HIGH basketball IQ who hit better 40% of his outside shots? That guy should NOT be a top 5 pick! NO WAY!
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 19, 2017 14:30:55 GMT
Just to be clear, I am talking about a modern center here... Your cryptic words so you can not be proven wrong are annoying. Why don't you just say who you think will be good? Not really. I can be proven wrong.. Simmons can turn out to be the best as expected... Ingram could catapult himself to the top....
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Post by Jared Montini on Jun 19, 2017 14:30:58 GMT
Mark my words, a shooting guard who will remain nameless will be the best player in the 2078 draft class.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 14:33:57 GMT
Mark my words, a shooting guard who will remain nameless will be the best player in the 2078 draft class. Clairvoyant
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 14:43:41 GMT
The only center with best-in-class ceiling from last draft is Papagiannis. And don't get me wrong, he's got a shot to be really good, but I doubt he ends up being the best player. Just to be clear, I am talking about a modern center here... Papagiannis has all the tools to be both an old school and modern center. I think in his prime he is gonna look a lot like 2016-2017s Brook Lopez.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 19, 2017 14:49:48 GMT
Just to be clear, I am talking about a modern center here... Papagiannis has all the tools to be both an old school and modern center. I think in his prime he is gonna look a lot like 2016-2017s Brook Lopez. or way better... Unfortunately, he is still with the Kings..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 14:50:38 GMT
Papagiannis has all the tools to be both an old school and modern center. I think in his prime he is gonna look a lot like 2016-2017s Brook Lopez. or way better... Unfortunately, he is still with the Kings.. The king's make shitty teams, but they certainly don't hinder centers development.
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