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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 22:02:15 GMT
Maybe have a minimum games missed. If the player doesn't miss the last 15-20 games of the season (gets shut down in the last week or so) don't have them miss any time.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 22, 2016 12:42:47 GMT
Do we already have Chandler Parsons?
Likely undergoing season ending surgery.
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Mar 22, 2016 12:45:48 GMT
Do we already have Chandler Parsons? Likely undergoing season ending surgery. Nothing official yet, but it's almost a foregone conclusion to happen at this point.
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 23, 2016 20:04:22 GMT
Yes we will know about Parsons by Friday hopefully. Injuries oh injuries..
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 23, 2016 20:05:22 GMT
That's what you get..lmfao
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Mar 25, 2016 18:46:01 GMT
Meyers Leonard out for the year.
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 26, 2016 12:26:15 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Mar 26, 2016 15:16:02 GMT
Booo Not Cool!!!!
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 29, 2016 21:09:11 GMT
Ryan Anderson and Jrue Holiday both are done with rather serious injuries. Sports Hernia and Orbital Fracture, respectively. They would miss serious time regardless of the season being over.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 21:17:37 GMT
Ryan Anderson and Jrue Holiday both are done with rather serious injuries. Sports Hernia and Orbital Fracture, respectively. They would miss serious time regardless of the season being over. Hey hey, you're being a little biased with your news here. Alonzo Gee is also out for the season
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 29, 2016 21:36:43 GMT
Wow traded Jrue just in time
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Post by James Kay on Mar 29, 2016 22:10:09 GMT
Ryan Anderson and Jrue Holiday both are done with rather serious injuries. Sports Hernia and Orbital Fracture, respectively. They would miss serious time regardless of the season being over. Yeah, I gotta say, AGAIN, this system is crazy. No reason Jrue should miss the entire rest of the D5 season simply because a 1-2 week injury occurred at the end of the real-life season. Absolutely asinine to continue that policy. D. Rose had the same injury and came back within 2 weeks
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 29, 2016 23:14:26 GMT
Ryan Anderson and Jrue Holiday both are done with rather serious injuries. Sports Hernia and Orbital Fracture, respectively. They would miss serious time regardless of the season being over. Yeah, I gotta say, AGAIN, this system is crazy. No reason Jrue should miss the entire rest of the D5 season simply because a 1-2 week injury occurred at the end of the real-life season. Absolutely asinine to continue that policy. D. Rose had the same injury and came back within 2 weeks The policy is a bit screwy. I think it needs to be based on severity of injury too. Should wait to see how long they say his recovery would be and then determine his D5 eligibility based off of that.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 30, 2016 2:27:55 GMT
Ryan Anderson and Jrue Holiday both are done with rather serious injuries. Sports Hernia and Orbital Fracture, respectively. They would miss serious time regardless of the season being over. Yeah, I gotta say, AGAIN, this system is crazy. No reason Jrue should miss the entire rest of the D5 season simply because a 1-2 week injury occurred at the end of the real-life season. Absolutely asinine to continue that policy. D. Rose had the same injury and came back within 2 weeks Yes its crazy. But it is the system in place. We can't change the system 7/8ths thru the season. The same issues arose last season and we decided to not do anything about it. An orbital fracture is a serious injury if it requires surgery or impairs vision. Yes, Rose missed minimal time with his, but it also occurred in the pre-season and there were still questions about it a month later, IIRC. Ryan Anderson's injury is pretty significant if it requires surgery, which I believe it does. Sports hernia surgeries are gruesome, and it being basketball, the abdomen is used a lot.
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Post by James Kay on Mar 30, 2016 2:48:41 GMT
Yeah, I gotta say, AGAIN, this system is crazy. No reason Jrue should miss the entire rest of the D5 season simply because a 1-2 week injury occurred at the end of the real-life season. Absolutely asinine to continue that policy. D. Rose had the same injury and came back within 2 weeks Yes its crazy. But it is the system in place. We can't change the system 7/8ths thru the season. The same issues arose last season and we decided to not do anything about it. An orbital fracture is a serious injury if it requires surgery or impairs vision. Yes, Rose missed minimal time with his, but it also occurred in the pre-season and there were still questions about it a month later, IIRC. Ryan Anderson's injury is pretty significant if it requires surgery, which I believe it does. Sports hernia surgeries are gruesome, and it being basketball, the abdomen is used a lot. Uhh we can absolutely change the system 7/8th through the season because thats the only time it applies! I didn't say anything about Ryan, just the brevity of Jrue's expected recovery time and when players are 'shut down' just because their teams are out of the playoffs
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 31, 2016 18:54:04 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 31, 2016 18:56:17 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 31, 2016 20:13:47 GMT
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 31, 2016 22:38:23 GMT
He broke his eye socket. The maximum isn't four weeks. Ever break your wrist, and you're in a cast for 6 weeks? Yeah, its a four week injury if it is just a small fracture. But if it is causing pain, double vision, things like that, it is more serious. Or if a plate needs installed. I am with Josh here. However, I hate this fucking system. I think it needs changed. But we cannot change it now. We went thru this stuff last year, and we had the same outcomes. I think Jrue should be on the IR. He suffered a Right Inferior Wall Orbital Fracture, which is the bone directly under your eye. Typically, in baseball, a player gets an orbital fracture from the ball hitting them in the face and it hits them on the outside of the eye, the plate. And those heal quicker. Itd be different if he pulled a muscle or had tendonitis. Also, Gee rupturing his quad is more than 8 weeks. Blake slightly tore his Quad and he has been out since December. And that is what is keeping him from coming back now. Gee probably won't be walking until June.
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Post by James Kay on Apr 1, 2016 0:01:06 GMT
He broke his eye socket. The maximum isn't four weeks. Ever break your wrist, and you're in a cast for 6 weeks? Yeah, its a four week injury if it is just a small fracture. But if it is causing pain, double vision, things like that, it is more serious. Or if a plate needs installed. I am with Josh here. However, I hate this fucking system. I think it needs changed. But we cannot change it now. We went thru this stuff last year, and we had the same outcomes. I think Jrue should be on the IR. He suffered a Right Inferior Wall Orbital Fracture, which is the bone directly under your eye. Charles. No. Here are some players that have had this injury before: Oladipo - Was playing again in ~16 days Rose - Playing again in less than a month (injury occurred prior to season) Jason Terry - Playing again in ~14 days Rondo - Playing again in ~20 days Those are some other players. This is not a season ending injury.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2016 0:48:29 GMT
It is with the pelicans medical staff!
They probably initially diagnosed it as a sinus infection and then they pushed on it too hard and broke it themselves.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 1, 2016 1:35:13 GMT
He broke his eye socket. The maximum isn't four weeks. Ever break your wrist, and you're in a cast for 6 weeks? Yeah, its a four week injury if it is just a small fracture. But if it is causing pain, double vision, things like that, it is more serious. Or if a plate needs installed. I am with Josh here. However, I hate this fucking system. I think it needs changed. But we cannot change it now. We went thru this stuff last year, and we had the same outcomes. I think Jrue should be on the IR. He suffered a Right Inferior Wall Orbital Fracture, which is the bone directly under your eye. Charles. No. Here are some players that have had this injury before: Oladipo - Was playing again in ~16 days Rose - Playing again in less than a month (injury occurred prior to season) Jason Terry - Playing again in ~14 days Rondo - Playing again in ~20 days Those are some other players. This is not a season ending injury. None of those are the same as the on Jrue suffered. Typically, an orbital fracture refers to a fracture on the outside of the eye socket, where as Jrue's is on the bottom. I couldn't care less about this. If he plays, he plays. But I am just saying, that with the way things were in previous seasons and other injuries, we put them out for the season. While I disagree with this system, I think consistency is much more important.
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Post by JR Wiles on Apr 1, 2016 14:56:48 GMT
Taj Gibson Out Indefinitely With Fractured Rib
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Post by James Kay on Apr 1, 2016 17:33:43 GMT
Charles. No. Here are some players that have had this injury before: Oladipo - Was playing again in ~16 days Rose - Playing again in less than a month (injury occurred prior to season) Jason Terry - Playing again in ~14 days Rondo - Playing again in ~20 days Those are some other players. This is not a season ending injury. None of those are the same as the on Jrue suffered. Typically, an orbital fracture refers to a fracture on the outside of the eye socket, where as Jrue's is on the bottom. I couldn't care less about this. If he plays, he plays. But I am just saying, that with the way things were in previous seasons and other injuries, we put them out for the season. While I disagree with this system, I think consistency is much more important. Support your claim. You have no idea or proof or support that Jrue has a "special" injury compared to these players
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 1, 2016 18:28:37 GMT
None of those are the same as the on Jrue suffered. Typically, an orbital fracture refers to a fracture on the outside of the eye socket, where as Jrue's is on the bottom. I couldn't care less about this. If he plays, he plays. But I am just saying, that with the way things were in previous seasons and other injuries, we put them out for the season. While I disagree with this system, I think consistency is much more important. Support your claim. You have no idea or proof or support that Jrue has a "special" injury compared to these players espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15092361/jrue-holiday-alonzo-gee-new-orleans-pelicans-season-injuriesIn there it reports that it is a Right Inferior Orbital fracture. Do i know the exact types of other fractures the other players had that you listed? No, I googled them and nothing specific like Jrue's came up. eyewiki.aao.org/Orbital_Floor_Fracturesemedicine.medscape.com/article/867985-overviewFrom what I have gathered from these two articles, and skimming some others, is that the Orbital Floor fractures are the most common with Medial wall fractures second. The Inferior bone is the bone directly beneath the eye, while the floor appears to be below the eye, in the socket, and the medial being the inside by the nose. And the zygomatiac being on the outside. It seems like because it was describe as an "Inferior" wall fracture, specifically in the article, that it should mean something. And because it does not appear to be a common fracture, I have inferred it to mean that it is more severe, as I think any person would conclude. Again, I don't give 2 shits about this. Rose broke his face and had surgery to put a plate in and he missed game time and it occurred before the season started. And he complained of double vision for weeks in to the season. Whether Jrue plays or doesnt should not be about the severity of the fracture. What it should be about is that he wasn't just "shut down" due to a lingering issue that he played through. He suffered an injury, and in that instance, he played the last few possessions of the game after getting the bleeding to stop, and then was listed as out for the season. It isn't as if he was playing through this already, like AD was, or that this was an "elected" surgery, such as a mensicus replacement rather than a removal, which was Rose's case last season. No matter what happens, I am preaching for Injury reform in here. Unfortunately, we don't realize how awful of a system this is until this time of the year. And it isn't all of our fault, it is the NBA's fault for not accurately disclosing injuries. My opinion is this: We are at Feb 22nd in the sim, a little more than a month behind RL, which means if we shut Jrue down in here, he misses an extra month than what he would in RL. I say we let him play thru Feb and all of March, and shut him down for April and then a special committee decides what to do from there if he is on a playoff team. It keeps time missed to exactly what he will miss IRL.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 3, 2016 15:36:44 GMT
Blake Griffin to return tonight
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Post by JR Wiles on Apr 6, 2016 7:26:39 GMT
Mike Conley done for season.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Apr 7, 2016 0:39:27 GMT
Mike Conley done for season. Doesn't it say likely? I didn't know that is a synonym for absolutely. While he is likely done, it isn't a definite. Maybe I can't find the post where it states that. If so, my bad.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Apr 7, 2016 22:59:46 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 8, 2016 20:34:13 GMT
Mike Conley is expected to return for the Playoffs, which is pretty soon, so even though he bowed out in mid-March with achilles tendonitis (expecting 3-4 weeks downtime) he only just makes the cut.
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