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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jan 15, 2020 19:17:55 GMT
Ben McLemore - Charlotte HornetsBen McLemore has agreed to a 2 year contract with the Charlotte Hornets: Year 1: $898,310 Year 2: $1,796,620 Ben received a few offers in OSFA (in the $1.5 - $2m per year range) but felt that he could get more money in RSFA as he continues to impress in real life. However, his agent failed him a bit as the strategy backfired, as two teams backed out of their offers and no new offers came in during RSFA over the past month. Ben is anxious to play and sees a good role on a competitive team in Charlotte, and ultimately decided to accept this minimum offer from Charlotte.
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Post by Jerry West on Jan 15, 2020 19:21:33 GMT
This one kinda hurts you didnt give me a chance to match when I came after Ben McLemore in off season FA
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jan 15, 2020 19:31:46 GMT
Hi Jerry, To be honest, he probably won't sign for a minimum contract in OSFA. We feel like he could always get that in RSFA, and with his performance in real life, he might be able to get even more. Either way, its a risk we think makes sense for McLemore. If he hasn't sign with anyone a few weeks into the season, feel free to reach out again, but for now we will probably hold pat. Thanks for your interest! The Hornets reached out 4 times since then, the Blazers did not reach out.
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Post by Jerry West on Jan 15, 2020 19:38:12 GMT
That's fair, can't argue with that. Plus he probably prefers the situation in Charlotte rather then fighting for minutes with future superstar SG Terence Davis
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Post by James Kay on Jan 15, 2020 19:38:14 GMT
Welcome Ben! Thanks Josh
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 15, 2020 22:52:47 GMT
I like the honesty. It ain't all about the waiting game.
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Post by Danny Longley on Jan 16, 2020 0:43:47 GMT
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Post by Alex English on Jan 16, 2020 1:03:22 GMT
Charlotte is also banned from signing player because they're over the hard cap.
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Post by James Kay on Jan 16, 2020 2:22:10 GMT
I already spoke to Ian.
I offered the contract during OSFA, and I was able to offer the league minimum to players because I was below the required minimum roster requirement.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 16, 2020 3:20:30 GMT
Ooohh.. This is getting interesting.
Popcorn please.
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Post by Tom Izzo on Jan 16, 2020 3:57:15 GMT
I already spoke to Ian. I offered the contract during OSFA, and I was able to offer the league minimum to players because I was below the required minimum roster requirement. But you're not longer under the minimum roster requirement though... Right? 🤔
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Post by James Kay on Jan 16, 2020 4:29:30 GMT
I already spoke to Ian. I offered the contract during OSFA, and I was able to offer the league minimum to players because I was below the required minimum roster requirement. But you're not longer under the minimum roster requirement though... Right? 🤔 Yes but only because there was a forced signing which took place a week after I offered this contract
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 16, 2020 19:32:06 GMT
Sorry James Kay I didn't notice you were over the Hard Cap, and also I didn't say you could swap McCullough for McLemore (although there was possibly some room for interpretation in my DM reply because I didn't mention it), so if I'm sticking by the rules (which I should) this deal can't go through. McCullough was force-signed because you didn't meet the roster deadline. In your DM to me you requested that, since you've been possibly neglected a bit by Andrei Kirilenko in negotiations for McLemore both during OSFA and RSFA, that you should be able to swap McCullough for McLemore because it took so long to sign McLemore that you were forced to sign McCullough. The main point is though is that, although yes it took a long time and a lot of persistence to sign McLemore and you'd rather not have to have signed McCullough, the chronology of events was such that McCullough was signed and now you're over the Hard Cap and don't need to fill roster spots for the league minimum - the Hard Cap rules kick in and make this illegal. It's my mistake for not noticing sooner.
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Post by James Kay on Jan 16, 2020 19:54:32 GMT
Sorry James Kay I didn't notice you were over the Hard Cap, and also I didn't say you could swap McCullough for McLemore (although there was possibly some room for interpretation in my DM reply because I didn't mention it), so if I'm sticking by the rules (which I should) this deal can't go through. McCullough was force-signed because you didn't meet the roster deadline. In your DM to me you requested that, since you've been possibly neglected a bit by Andrei Kirilenko in negotiations for McLemore both during OSFA and RSFA, that you should be able to swap McCullough for McLemore because it took so long to sign McLemore that you were forced to sign McCullough. The main point is though is that, although yes it took a long time and a lot of persistence to sign McLemore and you'd rather not have to have signed McCullough, the chronology of events was such that McCullough was signed and now you're over the Hard Cap and don't need to fill roster spots for the league minimum - the Hard Cap rules kick in and make this illegal. It's my mistake for not noticing sooner. I strongly disagree with this. Off-season free agency was delayed and shortened significantly. I had my offer in within the time that you specified. I shouldn't be punished for the shortened OSFA combined with undue delay of a PA wasting 5 weeks to get a minimum offer on McLemore ( not the fault of PAs. They are volunteer and do a lot of work). I am also 99% certain that forced signings have been substituted in the past.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 16, 2020 23:13:34 GMT
One more popcorn please.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 17, 2020 10:02:35 GMT
I strongly disagree with this. Off-season free agency was delayed and shortened significantly. I had my offer in within the time that you specified. I shouldn't be punished for the shortened OSFA combined with undue delay of a PA wasting 5 weeks to get a minimum offer on McLemore ( not the fault of PAs. They are volunteer and do a lot of work). I am also 99% certain that forced signings have been substituted in the past. Barber didn't feel like McLemore was bad enough to sign for the minimum during OSFA, as Player Agent he felt like McLemore could've got more money during RSFA. That's not what has transpired here but it's perfectly fair and legal that this is how the situation played out regardless of the drawbacks caused by this year's OSFA period. I'm not sure if a forced signing has been substituted in the past, but I am fairly sure that if it has happened then it wasn't 5 weeks after the season started. In situations where the Rules are specific I should uphold them.
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