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Post by George Gervin on May 28, 2019 13:33:43 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 30, 2019 21:29:14 GMT
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Post by George Gervin on May 31, 2019 1:46:24 GMT
Should’ve clarified: first to do it that didn’t have an eligibility or academic issue tied to him. Mudiay if I recall had eligibility red flags when he committed to SMU— same with Brandon Jennings and Zona
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 31, 2019 2:39:50 GMT
Should’ve clarified: first to do it that didn’t have an eligibility or academic issue tied to him. Mudiay if I recall had eligibility red flags when he committed to SMU— same with Brandon Jennings and Zona Ah, didn't realize he had those issues.
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Post by George Gervin on Dec 15, 2019 19:24:26 GMT
Update on the key players to date (think projected top 10 types): lots of “meh” performances or some serious red flags showing up. For example: - Before injuring his foot, LaMelo Ball had posted back to back triple-doubles for his Aussie pro league team. Now out the next month, he may not play a ton of games in the big picture, and despite the stat stuffing and insane passes he is shooting some ghastly (37% FG/25% 3P on almost 7 attempts a game) percentages for a guy clearly billed as a PG
- Cole Anthony has cooled off considerably after his 34 pts/11 rebounds/6 assists debut for UNC, with some trends showing (e.g. nearly 1:1 AST:TO ratio, shooting only around 36% at the rim, lots of mouthing off to refs) that may be a “buyer beware” as a top 2 pick for him (especially at already 20 yrs old for a freshman)
- Anthony Edwards at Georgia has run hot and cold, with some awesome explosive games (33 pts in a Maui Invitational clincher, for example) mixed in with dud performances. He doesn’t seem to want to enforce his will all the time, which probably has to do with he just turned 18 but for a top of the draft type, lot more risk than reward right now.
- James Wiseman played three games before being suspended, so no judgment to be passed on him; it’ll be interesting to see how motivated he is when he returns
- Some of the big international guys - Deni Advija and Theo Maledon, to name two — are not getting much run with their clubs, leading to some big “leap of faith” stuff projection wise. The one international guy who has popped a bit - French SG Killian Hayes — is up to 12 PPG/6 APG/1.5 SPG, but has only shown that through nine games.
In short, still way too early to tell who is going to be a good lottery pick or not, but early returns are there’s unlikely a Zion/Luka/JJJ type that is the “duh, take him” guy regardless of where a team is picking. There are a lot of guys who aren’t One and Done types that project to be nice role players - Obi Toppin of Dayton is one good example— that if you’re not looking for a star, there’s talent to be had. Picking in the top 6 though may not be as envious as years past based on the way the cream of the crop is performing
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Post by George Gervin on Dec 17, 2019 20:30:14 GMT
Of course right after an update, Cole Anthony goes down for 4-6 weeks with a torn meniscus.
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Post by George Gervin on Dec 19, 2019 19:59:41 GMT
Anddddd on top of the Anthony injury, Wiseman has decided to ghost Memphis and prep for the draft as opposed to come back. So three game sample size for him in college...
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Post by George Gervin on Feb 2, 2020 20:13:06 GMT
February update on top 10 types as we approach the thick of conference play for college guys and the halfway point for most international leagues: - The American duo who spent their time in the NBL Down Undah are both finished for their respective teams due to injury. Ball seems to be cleared to train again, but won’t return for Illawarra, and RJ Hampton is still out with an injury. Both guys played less games than you’d like to see for top prospects (both under 20 games), but it’s not nearly as limited as the tape for a guy like James Wiseman (3 games...yikes)
- Cole Anthony surprisingly didn’t pull a Kyrie and bail after his injury, and instead returned last night to post 26 pts in 26 mins (perfect 14-14 at the stripe too), but UNC lost to BC to remain under .500. Best guess for his return is he has been sliding down boards once teams dig into not only his own numbers but his impact on the broader UNC team, and enough “bad traits” are popping up to cause a draft tumble. Anthony likely needs a good February and March for a UNC squad unlikely to make the tourney and with so little talent that if Anthony can’t help elevate them, it may further hinder his draft stock.
- Tyrese Maxey of Kentucky is quietly asserting himself as one of the best translatable players from college to pros with his ability to get to the line, dribble-drive-and kick with efficiency, and his solid FT percentages. He still leaves a lot to be desired from beyond 18 ft, but he is making good progress and defensively his on ball work has been impressive for a freshman. Teams have to decide, though, if he’s a bench runner in the form of Lou Will or Vinnie Johnson, or a legit starting guard. He’s definitely a player to keep an eye on as Kentucky marches towards a likely top 4 seed in the tourney.
- Isaac Okoro of Auburn is another SEC guy climbing boards on the strength of all around play coupled with really, really promising physical and defensive traits. His shooting is woeful (and his handles are not great either), and you hope he isn’t the 2020 version of MKG, but to the right team (looking at you, Popovich and Spurs) with an elite shooting coach, he could be the best two way player in this draft.
- Obi Toppin of Dayton and Tyrese Halliburton of Iowa State just continue to stuff the stat sheets and show steady play. Both of these guys have real ceilings driven by age (Toppin already 22) and frame (Halliburton still pretty Livingston-esqe in appearance), but you’ll be hard pressed to find two players with higher floors. They figure to be easily projectable as rotation guys with the chance to be solid starters down the road.
- For the international guys, the pool is proving to be deep but the guy many thought would be the top international prospect—Deni Advija of Israel— has been supplanted by Killian Hayes of France. Hayes is an interesting prospect as an American born, pro playing 18 yr old who has been on a tear recently for his team in Germany. The early averages he had of 12 PPG and 6 APG have held, and he appears to be even bigger than his listed 6’4”. He could rocket to a top 4 selection if his play keeps up, as he is one of the youngest guys available, doing it against pros on a routine basis, and a weird draft group where there has been no alpha to emerge like years past with Zion, Doncic, KAT, etc.
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 20, 2020 16:51:37 GMT
Well the craziness of the last few weeks aside, this draft at the top at least will have all options available for whoever lands the #1 pick. Anthony Edwards of UGA declared today, joining James Wiseman, LaMelo Ball, and Obi Toppin of Dayton in a four way battle for the first selection.
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Post by Jerry West on Mar 20, 2020 16:58:07 GMT
Well the craziness of the last few weeks aside, this draft at the top at least will have all options available for whoever lands the #1 pick. Anthony Edwards of UGA declared today, joining James Wiseman, LaMelo Ball, and Obi Toppin of Dayton in a four way battle for the first selection. To me Obi Toppin being the first pick it's almost as bad as Anthony Bennet was
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Post by Tim Duncan on Mar 20, 2020 16:59:28 GMT
I expect Anthony Edwards to be the first pick
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Post by George Gervin on Mar 20, 2020 17:00:50 GMT
Well the craziness of the last few weeks aside, this draft at the top at least will have all options available for whoever lands the #1 pick. Anthony Edwards of UGA declared today, joining James Wiseman, LaMelo Ball, and Obi Toppin of Dayton in a four way battle for the first selection. To me Obi Toppin being the first pick it's almost as bad as Anthony Bennet was Agreed 100%, but it speaks to the huge question marks that he's being routinely mocked in the top 5 and could, in the eyes of some teams, be a viable #1 selection
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 1, 2020 12:56:33 GMT
Will we be delaying the draft as well?
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Post by Danny Longley on May 1, 2020 16:05:23 GMT
Will we be delaying the draft as well? 2019 Rookie DraftWelcome to the 2019 Dynasty Five Rookie Draft! Please read the Rules & Info below. The draft will begin as soon as the first pick is made. There is no time limit on making your pick until the start of the real NBA Draft June 20th. Our draft doesn't start until the IRL first pick is made
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Post by Ian Noble on May 1, 2020 19:26:31 GMT
Will we be delaying the draft as well? Yeah if this happens we will delay our draft. It's not going to happen before the draft, although I would find itt might be interesting to have a D5 draft before the real NBA draft for once, see whether our choices of picks is better than real life - without even the real draft to act as a guide.
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Post by Walt Frazier on May 2, 2020 2:34:46 GMT
Will we be delaying the draft as well? Yeah if this happens we will delay our draft. It's not going to happen before the draft, although I would find itt might be interesting to have a D5 draft before the real NBA draft for once, see whether our choices of picks is better than real life - without even the real draft to act as a guide. Theoretically, I'd like that. Maybe as a Mock draft only, though. Problem is, far too much relies on the organization that drafts these players, how they fit on the team, who is competing with them for minutes, etc.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 29, 2020 8:21:17 GMT
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Post by Jerry West on Oct 31, 2020 11:47:38 GMT
That is something
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Post by George Gervin on Oct 31, 2020 12:07:41 GMT
I think he could be a target for the Raptors (along with Isaiah Stewart from Washington) at the end of Round 1. Both guys fit their profile of punishing centers with smarts
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Post by George Gervin on Nov 4, 2020 16:45:26 GMT
Two weeks out update for anyone following NBA insiders/draft boards: - Biggest draft risers on the heels of workouts/Paralysis by Analysis/consensus are Tyrell Terry of Stanford, Patrick Williams of FSU, and Malachi Flynn of San Diego State. All project to be now either late lottery to early 20s after being all over the board early in the process. My two cents is Williams I think might end up being this drafts biggest steal IF he goes to the right developmental structure (i.e. Spurs, Warriors, Celtics) and I think Flynn is a complete gamer/hoops head type who will do great as a championship role player.
- Two NBL players are going opposite directions on the board— LaMelo sliding, RJ Hampton rising. Both have different reasons for their paths; for LaMelo, it’s been reported by multiple insiders he has bombed his interviews with the top 3 teams and LaVar has been upfront he wants him on the Knicks (go figure). For Hampton, he’s risen based on significant rework of his shot form to the point teams are talking themselves into him as a Tyreke Evans type with a head on his shoulders.
- Devin Vassell appears to have pulled a Fultz with his jump shot form and it looks terrible. If you Google videos on his workouts, he now throws the ball from behind his head and it looks completely broken. Don’t be shocked if his teammate Williams goes before him and if Vassell slides as far as 14
- Anthony Edwards has major character red flags that both the Dubs and Hornets have “leaked” (given misdirection at the top who knows if it’s true), but multiple insiders who have spoken to UGA coaches and close contacts of Edwards are starting to corroborate those flags. Apparently Edwards circle in Atlanta is not good to the point teams want him to get out of there ASAP and sever some ties. It will bear watching if he spooks off teams who may want to trade up for him (like the hometown Hawks).
- Saddiq Bey from Nova is emerging as a divisive prospect, with some teams (Dallas, GSW, Portland) feeling he is a perfect championship piece whereas some others are really down on him. I think if Bey was a quicker twitch athlete it’s not even a discussion, but the concerns that he may be stuck between the 3 and the 4 (and not in a good way) could be well founded
- The Spurs are a team other organizations see as lurking to trade up if either Okoro or Williams slide outside the top 6, with DeRozan or Derrick White being the likely trade chips coupled with #11 to go get one of those guys.
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Post by George Gervin on Nov 4, 2020 19:50:37 GMT
Also Desmond Bane is going to make some team in the 16-26 range very, very happy as a ready to play, mature guard who shot 44% from 3 on over 650 career attempts at TCU.
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Post by Jerry West on Nov 6, 2020 17:31:05 GMT
1st FT% : 98% (50/50 + 48/50) 1st 3PT Star Drill : 85% (17/20) 2nd 3PT Spot UP : 76% (38/50) 6th 3PT Endurance : 72% (63/87) Mid-Range Star Drill : 95% (19/20) Shooting Off Dribble : 90% (27/30) Side-Mid-Side : 83% (15/18)
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