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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Feb 8, 2019 20:52:04 GMT
Averaging career lows of 15.3 / 4.9 / 3.1 with a 13.3 PER and shooting just 31% from 3 and 41% FG.
He was below average efficiency last season too and is shooting his worst percentages at the rim since his 2nd season. Same with his assist percentage last season.
Still a quality player but older and not capable of the impact he was in the past.
Current rating: 85
Suggested rating: 81
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Post by George Gervin on Feb 8, 2019 20:54:14 GMT
81
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Post by Jerry West on Feb 8, 2019 20:57:34 GMT
81
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Feb 8, 2019 21:13:07 GMT
Edit: I'll concede two points due to the injury arguments. 83
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Post by Jared Montini on Feb 8, 2019 21:39:00 GMT
81
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Feb 8, 2019 22:22:30 GMT
He played really well last season and this season only has 14 games. I'll drop him to 84 to account for his passing and 3pt slightly declining but he did improve his rebounds last year too.
If you base anything on this season's stats you're being silly we've never done a stock watch after 14 games.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Feb 8, 2019 22:23:45 GMT
I will die on this hill and go through all the guards who are higher than an 81 and see how well they compare to Goran and adjust.
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Post by Alex English on Feb 8, 2019 22:34:40 GMT
I'm personally skeptical Goran is still worth an 85 rating, but I mostly agree with Jeremiah Hill. We've pretty much always given injured players a bit of leeway and an opportunity to come back healthy before lowering their rating. His 14 games played doesn't really mean anything at this point. The sample is too small. I say no change, just based on principle.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 8, 2019 22:53:36 GMT
I will die on this hill and go through all the guards who are higher than an 81 and see how well they compare to Goran and adjust. Die on a hill makes me think of a podcast that does a segment called "Hill's we'll die on." You don't happen to listen to Hysteria, do you? Feel like I saw you or someone else use that term recently in addition to this comment. As for Goran I agree with Jeremiah and Alex, both, but Alex exactly in my case. My gut says he's not an 85 but I just want more data before we yoyo his ratings too much.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Feb 9, 2019 0:34:07 GMT
I will die on this hill and go through all the guards who are higher than an 81 and see how well they compare to Goran and adjust. Die on a hill makes me think of a podcast that does a segment called "Hill's we'll die on." You don't happen to listen to Hysteria, do you? Feel like I saw you or someone else use that term recently in addition to this comment. As for Goran I agree with Jeremiah and Alex, both, but Alex exactly in my case. My gut says he's not an 85 but I just want more data before we yoyo his ratings too much. I heard someone say it in a discussion a bit ago and have been over using it as it's a really fun turn of phrase. That person might listen to that.
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Post by Tom Izzo on Feb 9, 2019 4:53:24 GMT
83
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 9, 2019 5:59:54 GMT
85, sample size too small
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Feb 9, 2019 16:55:03 GMT
He played really well last season and this season only has 14 games. I'll drop him to 84 to account for his passing and 3pt slightly declining but he did improve his rebounds last year too. If you base anything on this season's stats you're being silly we've never done a stock watch after 14 games. He declined last season. Worst shooting percentage at the rim and assist percentage last year since his 2nd season. I'm basing the 81 on mostly last year, if it was this year it'd be even lower
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Post by Mark Price on Feb 9, 2019 17:51:50 GMT
83
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Feb 9, 2019 22:48:36 GMT
85 ^^
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Feb 16, 2019 15:00:19 GMT
Thread closed after 11 votes. New rating = 83
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