PER: 18.2 (#1 on the Kings!) WS/48: 0.140 (#1 on the Kings!) Boxscore +/-: +1.9 (#1 on the Kings!) VORP: 1.5 (#1 on the Kings!)
Hey, you guys remember when we used to always trade for people and immediately post a stock watch thread? Good times!
The Sacramento Kings, much to your surprise, have a +500 record and we're more than halfway through the season. DeAaron Fox, Buddy Hield, and the fact that they don't have Georgios Papagiannis anymore, get obvious praise for the team's higher level of play, but if you take a look there is a good argument that Willie Cauley-Stein is actually the #1 reason for the Kings success this season. He's their defensive anchor, leads their team in most player impact stats and his impressive 50/50/50 shooting splits prove he's their best three point shooter too.
I know you'll all be super salty to give me an 80+ center in return for my 80+ center I was forced to salary dump, but let's all grit our teeth and do it anyway.
Here's some quotes from around the league about how good we all think WCS is:
2011-12: 47-35 2nd in Central / 4th in East / 1st Round Exit 2012-13: 56-26 2nd in Central / 3rd in East / 2nd Round Exit 2013-14: 42-40 3rd in Central / 7th in East / 1st Round Exit 2014-15: 47-35 3rd in Central / 5th in East / 1st Round Exit 2015-16: 31-51 5th in Central / 10th in East / No Playoffs 2016-17: 42-40 4th in Central / 8th in East / 1st Round Exit
Resorting to fabricating quotes and shit posting rating increases, really, a man of your talents?
Huh? This is a totally legit thread. The Josh Barber quote is real, the Larry Bird quote is obviously fake, and the Lebron one is a meme. I'm only making jokes. I guess I'm just not funny
We gave Bogdan Bogdanovic an 80. I don't see how someone could consider Bogdan to be better than WCS. If you compare their stats and the impact they both have on the Kings, WCS is better in pretty much every way. That's how I got my 81.
Shit, we just gave Daniel Theis a 75 and he averages 6 points and 4 boards. Now we're going to give WCS a 77-78 for putting up 13 and 9 and being one of the most impactful players one his team? That makes no sense. It's the complete lack of consistency from thread to thread and the clearly hype and emotionally driven votes that are the problems with the stock watch section. Not my stupid jokes. I'd go back to trying to write real arguments for rating increases, but nobody seems to care anyway, so what's the point?
I was half joking trying to force a Star Wars meme into the conversation. But really, you can't expect to get much love after trading for a player and then immediately posting their rating increase. I know people want to and aim to be objective, but it's a shady move. That shouldn't be the driving factor into the conversation, but I find it hard to believe it doesn't influence people.
Anyway, I did change my vote from a 77 to a 79.5. Here are his numbers this season compared to his career averages:
And here they are comparing last season to this season:
He's made progress and improvements. He's taken 2 3-pointers this season and made 1, so that should not even be in the discussion, but I'm assuming you were joking about that, too. If he was a 76 last year with those stats, I think the 79-80 range is probably fair for him with the strides he's made.
His defense is OK for a big. But 54% shooting is not impressive for someone who shoots 95% of his shots from inside 10 feet. Passing boosts him over a 78.
Personal Rating System so you know where I'm coming from. Superstars 90+ All-Star 85-89 Great Starters 81-84 Starter Caliber 79-80 Good Bench Guys 77-78 3pt Specialist type guys 75-76 Prospects/End of the Bench 69-74