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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 15, 2018 17:40:12 GMT
I'll get things started
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 15, 2018 17:41:35 GMT
Should go to Boston and get rid of that bum Kyrie. Celtics used to be my second favorite team after the Cavs until that whole debacle.
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 15, 2018 17:57:06 GMT
If I was any team, I wouldn’t trade for Kawhi till I know WTF is going on with his leg; I was reading a stat the other day that he’s played in less games than Anthony Davis, who is always criticized as injury prone.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 15, 2018 18:27:24 GMT
Kwahi wants to go to LA. It's going to be Kwahi, PG13, and LeBron next season for the Lakers. Might as well not even have an NBA season.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Jun 15, 2018 18:40:56 GMT
Do the lakers even have room for this though?
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 15, 2018 18:45:39 GMT
Yeah. I read what they would have to do online today for it to happen. Doesn't seem too unrealistic.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 15, 2018 20:37:42 GMT
I don't think LBJ staying in Cleveland is as low of odds as everyone thinks it is.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 15, 2018 21:24:41 GMT
Hope you're right. Lbj hates lavar ball so there is that.
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Post by Larry Bird on Jun 15, 2018 21:27:52 GMT
Include Lonzo Ball in a sign and trade to Cleveland for LeBron.
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Post by Larry Bird on Jun 15, 2018 21:32:21 GMT
Celtics send Kyrie Irving and a 2019 first-round pick (lottery protected, via Los Angeles Clippers) to Minnesota for Karl-Anthony Towns, Tyus Jones, and Cole Aldrich.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 15, 2018 22:43:09 GMT
Celtics send Kyrie Irving and a 2019 first-round pick (lottery protected, via Los Angeles Clippers) to Minnesota for Karl-Anthony Towns, Tyus Jones, and Cole Aldrich. I hope they do this.
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Post by Larry Bird on Jun 15, 2018 22:45:44 GMT
That would be a really nice team.
Rozier, Tatum, Hayward, Horford, KAT
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 15, 2018 23:05:08 GMT
That would be a really nice team. Rozier, Tatum, Hayward, Horford, KAT I would see this as a problem if Brown isn’t starting, but KAT on that squad with Tatum would be awesome I think the better Celts trade is 2019 Kings and Memphis picks plus Rozier, Yabusele, and one of the draft and stash to #4 if Doncic slides. A Irving-Brown-Tatum-Hayward-Horford lineup with Doncic as the super bench mob with Morris and Smart would be ridiculous
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 15, 2018 23:15:25 GMT
LBJ is staying in the East..
Kawhi's status is really intriguing. Will SAS trade him for young players/assets or for another star?
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Post by Larry Bird on Jun 15, 2018 23:30:30 GMT
Spurs should trade him.
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 16, 2018 13:04:11 GMT
If I’m the Spurs I trade him, but realistically there’s only three packages if I’m them I truly consider:
Lakers if Kuzma and Ingram are both in the deal
Celtics if Brown, 2019 Sacto pick, and Rozier as a starting point
Philly if Saric, Fultz, and 10 are the starting point
I do see two interesting wildcards though, and would love to hear what people think:
- With the recent quotes from both Klay and Draymond about not wanting to sign extensions to see if they can get a Supermax, do you trade one of the two (or both) for Kawhi and additional pieces?
- If you’re the Knicks, and you worry Kristaps will walk, do you offer him and #9 for Kawhi?
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 16, 2018 13:14:05 GMT
- If you’re the Knicks, and you worry Kristaps will walk, do you offer him and #9 for Kawhi? If it's true that Kristaps isn't happy, I don't see why the Knicks don't give this a shot.
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 16, 2018 13:17:56 GMT
- If you’re the Knicks, and you worry Kristaps will walk, do you offer him and #9 for Kawhi? If it's true that Kristaps isn't happy, I don't see why the Knicks don't give this a shot. I think between what happened last off-season when he skipped out to Europe, and his comments on the roster during the season, I’d worry if I was the Knicks FO. He also is on the team run by one of the worst owners in all of professional sports, so I would totally understand him wanting out if he indeed pursues an exit
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 16, 2018 14:09:35 GMT
The Nuggets could be a player for him. They have a ton of assets and want to get into the playoffs.
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Post by Jared Montini on Jun 16, 2018 16:26:09 GMT
You guys are crazy lol. All those trade scenarios are too much for 1 year of Leonard. He hasn't played in a year. When a superstar wants out with one year left on his contract you rarely get much in return. PG for pre allstar olapido and sabonis. Boogie for heild and some stuff. The team that is trading for the star has leverage
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 16, 2018 17:14:26 GMT
No chance Celtics trade jaylen for kawhi. Danny ainge is the best gm in the NBA, he's doesn't make short sighted trades
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 16, 2018 17:27:23 GMT
No chance Celtics trade jaylen for kawhi. Danny ainge is the best gm in the NBA, he's doesn't make short sighted trades I hope you're right! What even triggered Kawhi to flip his shit anyway? The most plausible explanation I've heard is that he didn't like how the Spurs handled him and his injury, so he sought other sources of medical advice, and he chose to continue to sit out based on those other sources advice. If that was the case though, and Kawhi's had very little contact with Pop or anyone with the Spurs, why leave the team altogether?
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Post by Jared Montini on Jun 16, 2018 17:35:14 GMT
No chance Celtics trade jaylen for kawhi. Danny ainge is the best gm in the NBA, he's doesn't make short sighted trades I hope you're right! What even triggered Kawhi to flip his shit anyway? The most plausible explanation I've heard is that he didn't like how the Spurs handled him and his injury, so he sought other sources of medical advice, and he chose to continue to sit out based on those other sources advice. If that was the case though, and Kawhi's had very little contact with Pop or anyone with the Spurs, why leave the team altogether? the team called him out for being cleared and sitting out.
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 16, 2018 17:58:55 GMT
I hope you're right! What even triggered Kawhi to flip his shit anyway? The most plausible explanation I've heard is that he didn't like how the Spurs handled him and his injury, so he sought other sources of medical advice, and he chose to continue to sit out based on those other sources advice. If that was the case though, and Kawhi's had very little contact with Pop or anyone with the Spurs, why leave the team altogether? the team called him out for being cleared and sitting out. I think this also has the shades of classics fringe family member running the show. I’ve seen his uncle mentioned multiple times as someone pushing more $$ from Nike on his shoe deal and for Kawhi to get more endorsements, but someone should tell his uncle it’s hard to endorse a guy who doesn’t like to talk..
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Post by Jay Z on Jun 16, 2018 20:51:55 GMT
I remember seeing the "there is a big pile of money waiting for em if he makes his way to big market team" rumor pop up when this story was originally talked about and resurfacing now.
I think their will be a pretty healthy market for his services, regardless of the fact that he's one year removed from playing and that he's currently on an expiring. Players of Kawhi's caliber really don't just hit the market like this, one of the few guys that can be the best player on a championship team.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 16, 2018 21:49:17 GMT
When was the last time a best player on championship team guy was traded? KG in 2008?
(not counting LeBron sign and trade)
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 16, 2018 22:30:05 GMT
No chance Celtics trade jaylen for kawhi. Danny ainge is the best gm in the NBA, he's doesn't make short sighted trades best gm?? I disagree.. The one at SAS, TOR, DEN, UTA and GSW are better.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 16, 2018 23:13:17 GMT
No chance Celtics trade jaylen for kawhi. Danny ainge is the best gm in the NBA, he's doesn't make short sighted trades best gm?? I disagree.. The one at SAS, TOR, DEN, UTA and GSW are better. Toronto was worse than the Celtics this season while the C's were missing their 2 best players. San Antonio is about to lose a superstar in his prime. They are paying a 38 year old Pau Gasol 8 figures next year. Denver is capped out with no way to improve beyond being conference semifinals material. Utah and Golden State could definitely be arguable, though it doesn't take a ton of skill to sign Kevin Durant Danny Ainge has the Celtics back on the top of the league after blowing up his entire roster just 5 years ago. No other team in NBA history has been able to rebuild so fast and successfully.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 16, 2018 23:41:40 GMT
best gm?? I disagree.. The one at SAS, TOR, DEN, UTA and GSW are better. Toronto was worse than the Celtics this season while the C's were missing their 2 best players. San Antonio is about to lose a superstar in his prime. They are paying a 38 year old Pau Gasol 8 figures next year. Denver is capped out with no way to improve beyond being conference semifinals material. Utah and Golden State could definitely be arguable, though it doesn't take a ton of skill to sign Kevin Durant Danny Ainge has the Celtics back on the top of the league after blowing up his entire roster just 5 years ago. No other team in NBA history has been able to rebuild so fast and successfully. How may Championships did they win with him at the helm? If you are only talking about the last five to seven years, then I may agree.. But in terms of total body of work, no way.
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 16, 2018 23:51:34 GMT
Toronto was worse than the Celtics this season while the C's were missing their 2 best players. San Antonio is about to lose a superstar in his prime. They are paying a 38 year old Pau Gasol 8 figures next year. Denver is capped out with no way to improve beyond being conference semifinals material. Utah and Golden State could definitely be arguable, though it doesn't take a ton of skill to sign Kevin Durant Danny Ainge has the Celtics back on the top of the league after blowing up his entire roster just 5 years ago. No other team in NBA history has been able to rebuild so fast and successfully. How may Championships did they win with him at the helm? If you are only talking about the last five to seven years, then I may agree.. But in terms of total body of work, no way. With respect to Ainge, he has made solid picks in the draft, but he also had the advantage of being opposite two dumb GMs in monumental trades
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