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Post by Allen Iverson on May 1, 2018 23:44:21 GMT
Philadlelphia 76ers trade:
78 Marcus Morris - $13,320,000 | $14,785,200 | $16,411,572 Bucks 2018 2nd Round Pick Spurs 2018 2nd Round Pick
Total: $13,320,000
Cleveland Cavaliers trade:
78 Jordan Clarkson - $15,000,000 | $16,000,000 | $17,000,000 | $18,000,000
Total: $15,000,000
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 2, 2018 0:06:35 GMT
Someone's looking to move Ntilikina or is worried about a Morris ratings boost. IDK, seems weird. Why give up 2 picks in order to get an extra year of basically Nick Young but for a year longer than the contract you're giving up?
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on May 2, 2018 0:08:45 GMT
Love it that a fellow Filipino got him.
Clarkson is young and concluding that he is already at his peak is short-sighted.
Accept.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 2, 2018 0:37:44 GMT
Love it that a fellow Filipino got him. Clarkson is young and concluding that he is already at his peak is short-sighted. Accept. I'm not sold on him being significantly better at 28 than he is now. But that said after looking at the stats, Morris being 28, Clarkson being 25, neither really likely to change teams in the near future. I'd definitely give the upside play to Clarkson getting to, eh. IDK slightly taller Monta Ellis level. Marcus, playing, oddly on a 5 mil deal in real life might blow up next season but I don't see that sustaining very long after he's 30. Either way, I think both contracts are bad. The Clarkson contract being bad, I think regardless unless he really hits that peak. Then again I don't think that even at his peak that 18 mil is a great value. Then again, Morris is at least performing at market value for a decent SF/PF combo guy with his contract. I don't think those 2nd rounders are incredibly valuable but that said I'm not sure why 2 of them were required to get this deal done. IDK weird deal. Would not reject if I was a PA though.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on May 2, 2018 1:48:24 GMT
Love it that a fellow Filipino got him. Clarkson is young and concluding that he is already at his peak is short-sighted. Accept. I'm not sold on him being significantly better at 28 than he is now. But that said after looking at the stats, Morris being 28, Clarkson being 25, neither really likely to change teams in the near future. I'd definitely give the upside play to Clarkson getting to, eh. IDK slightly taller Monta Ellis level. Marcus, playing, oddly on a 5 mil deal in real life might blow up next season but I don't see that sustaining very long after he's 30. Either way, I think both contracts are bad. The Clarkson contract being bad, I think regardless unless he really hits that peak. Then again I don't think that even at his peak that 18 mil is a great value. Then again, Morris is at least performing at market value for a decent SF/PF combo guy with his contract. I don't think those 2nd rounders are incredibly valuable but that said I'm not sure why 2 of them were required to get this deal done. IDK weird deal. Would not reject if I was a PA though. If you are a PA, you cannot reject it Think about it, Clarkson has shown the ability to become a credible playmaker (his first two season). He can of course score. His main problem is defense and fortunately, he has the tools to be more than passable. Yeah. The way he plays makes you believe that he will never be a good defender but what if he finds the right coach that can drive him to play his ass off on the defensive end?
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Post by Walt Frazier on May 2, 2018 1:53:54 GMT
I wouldn't put in those 2nds, but not enough here to reject.
Accept
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 2, 2018 2:17:07 GMT
I'm not sold on him being significantly better at 28 than he is now. But that said after looking at the stats, Morris being 28, Clarkson being 25, neither really likely to change teams in the near future. I'd definitely give the upside play to Clarkson getting to, eh. IDK slightly taller Monta Ellis level. Marcus, playing, oddly on a 5 mil deal in real life might blow up next season but I don't see that sustaining very long after he's 30. Either way, I think both contracts are bad. The Clarkson contract being bad, I think regardless unless he really hits that peak. Then again I don't think that even at his peak that 18 mil is a great value. Then again, Morris is at least performing at market value for a decent SF/PF combo guy with his contract. I don't think those 2nd rounders are incredibly valuable but that said I'm not sure why 2 of them were required to get this deal done. IDK weird deal. Would not reject if I was a PA though. If you are a PA, you cannot reject it Think about it, Clarkson has shown the ability to become a credible playmaker (his first two season). He can of course score. His main problem is defense and fortunately, he has the tools to be more than passable. Yeah. The way he plays makes you believe that he will never be a good defender but what if he finds the right coach that can drive him to play his ass off on the defensive end? IDK if he will fulfill anything if Lue remains his coach. He's terrible.
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Post by Ian Noble on May 2, 2018 6:48:48 GMT
I accept, similar to Walt, not enough to reject.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 2, 2018 7:05:21 GMT
Great trade hana. I've been loving your moves lately
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Post by Danny Longley on May 2, 2018 7:23:25 GMT
Accept.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on May 2, 2018 11:15:56 GMT
Clarkson's problem is he can't dribble st all, can't shoot a three, and plays bad defense.
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 3, 2018 0:46:09 GMT
Clarkson's problem is he can't dribble st all, can't shoot a three, and plays bad defense. I read something along the lines of this yesterday regarding Jordan Clarkson: "If there were no shot clocks, Jordan Clarkson would just dribble the ball for 12 minutes and that would be the quarter."
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Post by Alex English on May 3, 2018 1:00:04 GMT
Accept
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on May 3, 2018 1:10:26 GMT
accept
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Post by Ian Noble on May 3, 2018 8:55:08 GMT
Trade passed.
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